How much would dedicated severs help? Apex legends has dedicated severs and destiny runs way better than apex. Play apex and watch how many ghost rounds you shoot. It’s a joke. Poor hamsters trying to run apex while the devs make millions off simple skins

But at least he devs of apex are taking charge and taking responsibility for hackers and cheaters and maintaining the servers so players are able to play without much trouble. Bungie refuses to take responsibility for the games horrible performance,cheaters,and hackers. Almost every error code that happens in destiny blames the player for having a bad connection instead of bungie being blamed. So dedicated servers would at least show they are trying. As it stands now. Bungies is being lazy and I’m guessing it’s because of money. They don’t want to spend the money to make or get actual servers let alone hire someone to maintain the servers. It would be less money in there pockets.

[quote]But at least he devs of apex are taking charge and taking responsibility for hackers and cheaters and maintaining the servers so players are able to play without much trouble. Bungie refuses to take responsibility for the games horrible performance,cheaters,and hackers. Almost every error code that happens in destiny blames the player for having a bad connection instead of bungie being blamed. So dedicated servers would at least show they are trying. As it stands now. Bungies is being lazy and I’m guessing it’s because of money. They don’t want to spend the money to make or get actual servers let alone hire someone to maintain the servers. It would be less money in there pockets.[/quote] Yooo I gotta screenshot this comment a share with the apex community 😂 only in destiny forums you’ll find the apex boot lickers defending the worse season of apex since season 5. Talking about the “devs listen” ohhh lord that’s funny

Well you would be lying to who ever you share that to. I don’t play apex. Trust me from what I see apex isn’t a great game because guess what it went with that stupid genre of battle royals just to sell a game. Granted free to play. But guessing micros are a -blam!-. But I’m saying at least the devs are trying to make an effort with the game by at least having dedicated servers and dealing with hacker or cheaters as to where bungie isn’t. Apex might not be in a good state. But destiny is worst off than what it should be. Apex is fully pvp based. Destiny has both pve and pvp and focus way to much on pvp.

Another cold take. Apex community doesn’t feel the devs listen.. why nerf lifeline and octane? Of course loba is getting nerfed after being broken for how long? Also I deal with way higher ping on apex vs destiny, dedicated or not... I play apex/TF/destiny/warzone very often. I can clearly tell you don’t play apex 😂 I love apex, but the devs definitely don’t listen 😂 and hackers are FAR more common on apex than destiny.. and it’s not even close. Yea destiny has issues, but to say destiny focuses too hard on PvP is another cold take.. when’s the last time destiny added a new pvp map? Where’s the halo style pvp ranked mode? Destiny NEEDS to make pvp better

Destiny doesn’t need pvp so I can tell you haven’t been around long enough. Just because no new maps for pvp doesn’t mean a lot cause of shotguns and sniper rifles being used to much. You either get short range maps or long range maps. Depending on how bad bungie buffs or nerfs something it shows they can’t balance the game because of its hybrid gameplay of pvp and pve will never be separated. Bungies biggest flaw is pvp with destiny. An yes pvp is focused alittle to much. The nerfs and or buffs to abilities and weapons shows that its being done because of pvp not pve. The only time it’s done for pve is when youtubers or streamers with there raid groups for worlds first uses strategies and certain weapons to get the job done. An that has to do with certain weapons having more dps than others or there not being a decent substitute. Yea apex has some over powered or just to powerful characters but most of that come down to play style and the player using that characters strength better. If each character had some negatives such as they are a bit weak or don’t have the muscle mass then they have reduce stability. As in you use a more speedy character they would have reduce stability but greater ads speed. That’s just a problem with apex is that there are no negatives to the characters overall. I watched enough videos. It’s a combination of overwatch and any battle royal game. To many polices almost no negatives to characters.

But they didn't switch to p2p when beyond light launched.

Destiny PvP has always been like this, only now it's a little bit worse.