icarus ash lakcs speed, lethalness efectivness titan with shoulder mellee can best icarus dash in evry way and with the same amount of down time or even less. hunter and especially stasis hunter dodge and shater best icarus dash even in super. also using icarus dash in super plus blade can literly were down your whole super bar in less then 3 secs. icarus dash is also very condicional unlike shater or hunter dodge or titan shoulder mellee, in adition when evry hunter has dash and ervy titan sub class has 1 shoulder charge tree that is 1 faster, two restores hp, 3 has aoe instant kill damge, 4 in void silence, in arc reks, and in solar sunpots with raring flames. at this height icarus dash seem a gimick especially when behemoth can literly fly and instant kill with on epucnh and hunter stasis as a mention shatter and teleporting dodge with slow. also being effectid by slow removes the ability to use icarus dash, pheonix dive or even glide, rendering the whole atunment of the sky three usless by a sinple 1 stak of slow. so it actually not a class you would whant to encounter stasis with especially stasis. also all abiities in atunment of the sky are very conditional essencially the whole warlock solar tree were a simple mistake will cause you a fortune to recover and survive.

Icarus dash lacks speed, please I've gone so fast into a wall that I died so many times.

Have You Doddge Sniper Round WIth It? Have You Dodge Handcanons Rounds With It? Have You Dodge Fewinter That In Your Face With It Before Felwinter Shoots? Have You Dodge Golden Gun WIth It? Have You Dodge Hunter Silence And Sual WIth It? Have You Dodge Any Effect of Slow And Shuriken With It? Have You Dodge A Hamer Strike With A SIngle One? Have You Dodge Any Titan or Hunter Mellee With It? Could You Dodge Jotun With It? Could You Dodge A Titan Shield Trew With It? Could You Dodge A Chaos reach With It or Survive Using It Againt A Chaos Reach? Could You Dodge A Spectral Blades At Point Blank That Was Going To Kill You With It And Kill It Back. Could You Escape From A Titan In Super: Behemoth And With The Encounter? Could You Evade A Titan Earth Shaker Punch The Was Auto Seeking You And Kill The Titan? Could You Ever Evade A Gernade That Was Thrown To You with Only A Silver Of Health Remaining And It Was About To Kill You with It. Could You Avoid A Full Locked Skip Gernade Or Fusion Gernade. Could You Rapidly Shot When Casting It Like Hunter Dodge/ Do You Get Health Dodging Like Hunter Dodge? Do You Silence Enemies And Blind Them Like Hunter Dodge, Can You Restore Heavy Amo Like Hunter Dodge? Could You Reload Weapons Like Hunter Dodge? Could You decrese Its Coldown Like Hunter Doge? Could You Modify It In Any Way Like Hunter Exoticts or Titan Exoticts For Mellee. Could You Kill Wth It Like Titan Hamer Strike Or Any Shoulder Charge? Did It Gave You Hp Like Hammer Strike? Did It Drop A Sunspot That Gave Your Alies Roaring Flames Like Hammer Strike? Did It Gave You A Overshield Like Titan Hammer Strike? Did It Could Leave A Suspot That Damages And Kills Almost Instantly With A Massive Damaging Sunspot Burn, And Also Last Probably More The A Solar Gernade With Sunbracers? Have It Been Any Esencial To Doge Anything In The Middle of Battle? If You Were Attacking Somone And Othe rPeople Showed Up And Your In The Middle Of Battle Has Dodging Saved Your Life? Could Us See Were You Dodge Or Predict Were You Woud Go Before You Dodge By Instincts? Could It Give Invisibility Liek Hunter Dodge? Could You -blam!- In The Floor Like Hunter Dodge? Have You Ever Survive Afetr Being Frozen Using The Doge When A Enemy Is Aiming At You? Does It Restore Health like Pheonix Dive? Can It Kill Like Pheonix Dive In Super? Could It Easily Get You To Cover In The Mids Of Battle? Could It Ever Have A Achievment To get A Kill When Somone Else Was Icarus Dashing Like Hunter Dodge? Could It Ever Get A Achivement like Phonix Dive When You Kill Somone With Pheonix? Could It Defeat Another Dawnblade Super With A Single Pheonix Dive To The Head? Could It Fully Evade A Spectral blade That Slashing You? Could You Ever Defeat A Arcstaff With Guard That Contantly Blocking our Attack With It And Ricocheting The Back? Could You Complely And Efectivly Completly Evade A Titan Punch To The Ground Thing, Forgot How Its Called, By Instict or Skill, And Survive? Could You Ever Survive Using It In A Very Close Room WIth Withehoard? Could It Inflict Slow Like Hunter Doge In Stasis? Could It Literly Teleport Bothn Ground And It Air Like Hunter Stasis Doge? Could It Fly Like Behemoth Punch? Could It Even Beat Titan Behemoth Punch Speed? Can It Autoseek Like A Titan Behemoth Punch? Coudl It Insta Kill Like Titan Punch? Could It Even Completly Effectivly Nulify, A Titon Punch Knockback That Yeeted You To Space And Time WIthount Killing You? Its It Better Then Titan Mellee? Could It Infinitly let You Fly Like Titan Hammer Strike? Does It Not Have Coldown Like Titan Hammer Strike When Used To Doge? Did It Gave you The Ability To Dodge Any Stasis Warlock Projectiles, Or Mellee, Especially At Point Blank? -blam!- Gernade That Was Thrown Literly On You? Could You Completly Evade Atlest Hunter Arc Rissing Current Mellee? (If Thats How Its Called) Could You Completly Evade A Titan Stasis Uppercut Wave Thing, Defeat The Titan And Survive The Encounter Because You Use It? Could You At Point Blank Even Atlest Not Get Frozen By It? Could You Doge In Dust Gernade Using It? No Because You Cant Use it Can You Use It After Your Afected By Slow By Hunter Doge? And If So Have Your Survive And Defeated The Hunter? Did It Work To Completly Evade 2 Shurikens Thrown At You? Could It Save You From Being Frozen By Shuriken? And Could It Be Trigerd As Fast As Shuriken, Dodge Etc? Do You Haeve Full Control Of Your Direction With It Like Wings Of Sacred Dawn When You Safe Enough Glide? Could It Save Your Life In Literly Almost 100% of The Time When Use Properly Like Hunter Shater? Could It Doge Vertically Like Hunter Shatter? Coud It Destroy A Frozen Opponent like Hunter Shatter? Could It Bee Use Even Effectivly Lie Hunter Shatter At All? Could It 100% Evade All Projectile Against A Dawnblade Shotting At You? And Win That Encounter? Could It Stream Up And Wistand The Full Aim Of A Chaos Reach Super Like Behemoth Punch? Etc,Etc,Etc.... All Of The Evade I Did WIth No Icarus Dash, And I Did It Twice At Minimum Each Expet Spectral blade At Point Blank I Only Di That Once And Earthsaker A Point Blank. Against Spectral Blade Out Of The Map I Simply Falled Lol I Did Not Got Kiled But I DId Not Survive Technicaly The Encounter. That Includes Evading A Full Behemoth Super. And Evading Also Killing At Point Blank Earthshaker Titan. Also The Spectral Blade A Point Blank And Killing The Spectral Blade. Etc... I expect If So Mad Speed As You Say Evade The Same With The Same or (Since Its A s Tier Top Skill) Better Effectivness Anything That I Did:(Withoun It). Plus More...

There are about 25 other people here, probably even more, that disagree with what you’re saying. Maybe you should rethink your statement. Everyone here says that icarus Dash is really good, and I agree. It has saved my life more times than I can count, and it has allowed me to dodge many things. Hunters only get one dodge charge without the help of an exotic, and it has a cool-down. They also don’t get rifts or barricades. Warlocks can dodge two times, while in the air, with a five second cool down. You can launch three explosive projectiles from an insane distance, and the track. Yes, some titan sub classes have shoulder charge malaise, but they have to be constantly sprinting in order to activate it at any time, and it’s basically just another shotgun shot. Titan glide is absolute garbage, with zero air time and a random drop off. It’s top tree, you can shoot from the air, as well as aim down sites and throw grenades. Yes, the super is not that good with top tree, but the sub class has no modifiers that enhance the super, because the sub class is not based off of the super. It is not meant to have a good super. But that doesn’t matter, because it has a great everything else. Also, just the fact that so many people disagree with what you’re saying and give reasons for why talk tree is good, should kind of tell you that you’re wrong.

A Popular Opinion Does Not Mean Its Right Or Wrong, Example People Say That Hunter Void Needs A Buff, Why; It Can Silence And Go Invicible, And Invisible Is Not Available For Neither Titan or Warlock, And Its Silence Is Not Availabel For Warlock Void. Super Can Go Invisible And Can Glide Of Surfices Almost Indefinitly Thanks To Slash. It Can Aoe Cause Invisibility With Smoke Gernade, Why It Sould Be Buffed With More Advantages That Literly Is Not Available In Any Class And Is Very Efective To Some Degree. Why Arc In Titan Has Extra Gernades When Titan Already Are Dominant In Both Super And None Super Consistant Game Play With Great Area Of Effect And Damage, And more Sepecially When Its Not Its Focuse To Have Gernade Its Warlocks Focus. Why Does Sunspots Are So Effective And Better For Suporting And Literly Doubel Super With A SIngle Exotic Why Is It That Titan Gernade And Melee Are bothe More Deadly And Lethal. Why In PvP And PvE Tiatn Can Infinite Recharge Melle And Even Remove A Whole Yellow Orge Bar Almost Completly And Keep Restoring It Also Leave Suspots. Why In PvP And PvE Tiatn can Infinite Spawn Fusion gernade With Ashen Wake Arent Warlocks Supose To Be The Gernader. Why, It Wont Get Nerfed Its Not Op, Its Not Better Then Warlock Because Nobody Said Anything or Specified It In The Foroums As Much When It Clealry Is Better. Why Alpha Lupi Is Avalable For Titan With Extra Buffs Witch Work A Lot More Effective And Makes Titan Block, Supor And Leave Your Hp To A Silve With Just Shield. 3Why Warlock Cannot Have A Exotic That Buff Healing If Warlock Was Given A Class Ability That Heal, All We Got Is Literly A SIngle Tree That Heal Efectivly, And Evry Titan Can Use Alpha Lupi. Evry Titan Can Use Ac Fedback Exotic evn Stasis And Its Cleary Broken Since It Has Far Longer Range To Chain A Lighting And Potencially Kill 4 people r A Whole Team At Once. Why There Literly Only 2 Exoticts That Fully Supor Gernade And Some That Barly Even Works For Rift, When Its Warlock Main Focus, Why Is There More Skill Buff, More Jump Buuff, More Evrything Buff On Other Classes, While Warlock Has very Conditional Exoticts And None Buffs Passivly Anything Exept Winter Guiles And Clawns Of Americka, When Warlock isint Even Focus On Mellee That Titan. Why There No Warlock Tree Theat Suport Gernade Witch Is Its Main Focus, As Titan Suport A Lot Mellee, And Hunter Dodge Alqays Is Good To Always Be Usefull In Almost Any Situation. Why Warlock ust Have A barly Efficient Dodge And Focus On Somthing That Its Not Meant And Because Its Not mena It Has To Do Sacrifices Etc. The Only Exotict That Fully Complements If Any In Warlock is Wings Of Sacred Dawn, And Storm Crown Also Nazerac Sin, And There Solid Locked In Specific Subs, Unlike Stompees, Unlike Trickstre, Unlike Bombars, Unnlike Arc, or Heart of Inmost Light, Etc. Why If Spectral blade And Arcstaff Also earthskaker Why When It Was Insanly Dominant Before Beyound Light Why Did It Not Get A Nerf Like Warlock Stasis Thrice When It Released. Mater A Fact When Behemoth And Squaal Was relesed Why They Did Not Get nerfedf When They Were Clearly Better The Warlock Stasis. Especially Behemoth Punch Now Witch is Literly Superioir The Anything I Have Seen. Why Is It That Its Not Fix, Because Its Not A Popular Opinion That Does Not Change The Fact That Only Change The Number Of Poeple Who Actually Aknowledges It Why Did Warlock got Insanely Nerfed After Beyound Light And The Rest Were Buff, Titan Is Literly The Same Sunsinger Withount Using Super Getting Overshield And Healing. Why Is This Not Mention Why This Is Not properly Aranged And Fix Why Warlock Can Not Be Warlock Because Its A Popular Opinion For Warlock To Not be Warlock?

Warlocks get infinite grenades with sunbracers, and if you use them correctly, infinite melee as well. Also, grenade is spelled grenade not gernade

If You Use Them Corectly, As In You Need To Use Then Corcetly nd You Need To Use A Certain Tree To Use Them Corectly Unlike Titan, And Warlock is The Grenader In Destiny Not Titan. And Also Titan Have A Better Fully Recharged Melle, Mater Fact Titan Does Not Have To be In Air, Doe Not Have To Use A Specific Tree, And Does Not Need To Use A Melee. or Got Threw The Difectivness Of Being Airborne And Insta Kills In PvP And PvE Withount Directly Having To Hit here Oponent With It. To Get Infinite Grenade On A Class Thats Not Even The Main Focus On Gernade, Its Main Focus Is Mellee And Leves A Sunspot. Far Better Then A Whole Class That Is Suposed To be Focuse On Granades or Devoted To It. How Can Nobody Aknoledge Thos Facts, Clear And Crystal Clear Facts. And Just in Case You Di Not Know Sunbracers Got Nerfed And Warlock Granagde Devotion Got Nerfed. So Your Saying That Its Normal For A Normal Class To Significaly Trail Withount Even Having To Use An Trigger At All And Did Not Need A Literal Ritual, Then A Dedicated Class And A Dedicated Tree For Managing Barly A Sync If He Does Not Miss, Witch Is Quite Easy To Miss On Longer Ranges. I Mean Do You Even Know What Exotic Does TItan Solar Has To Use To Do That Really, Because That Exotic Literly Makes A Fully Autoeficient Gerande Spam On Both PvP And PvE On Its Own That Barly A Whole Dedicated Tree, Buld And Exotic Can Manage Together In Only PvE. And Withount Rushing To Randomly And Madly Spam Gernades To Take The Most Eficiency Out Of The Whole Sync. And Its Kill Cause Roaring Flames Just To Give You A Idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVFJ_P1hxgc And Still Now is Viable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoJk6ro6Vk4 And There Is The Ac 130 That A Suposedly Made Warlock Broken Tah Somone Elses Stated For Warlock, No Its On Titan Both PvP And PvE Not Warlock. Yeah Look For Info, And Look For Videos That Actually State The Things Then Randomly Overpopulizing A Opinin That You Have Barly Experiece Of. Oh And Just So You Know Middle Tree Titan Is Clasified In Beyound Light C Tier Not S Tier. Interesting a C Tier Can Beat a S Tier In Damage, Consistency Eficincy And Even A Dedicated Class Grenade S Tier Build Beaten By a C Tier With Minimal effort Compared To The Suposed S Tier Warlock, And Infinite Melee And Gernade With Just Raring Flames Witch Constanly Last longer Then Heat Rises And Far More Easier Ways To Get It. At This Point A Rest My Case, Their Just Literly Nothing Else left To Say. Edit: Just A Extra Its A Range Melee Ability That Intant Kills At 3 Staks, And Fully Recharges On Impact And restore Hp On Pickup. Oh And This That can literly Shred PvP Bosses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA07-xIaxRE And The Run With Just The Hammer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t6kgCUXYec Warlock Cannot Do That.

Are you having a stroke? Your sentences are so choppy and I can hardly understand half of what you’re saying. Use voice to text or something, because whatever you’re doing right now is not working. Making grammatical errors is not good in an online argument, because those who you are arguing against tend to exploit it. I will not do that, because I’m not mean, I’m just warning you because some people tend to do that. Also, for the last time grenade is spelled grenade. Not gernade