When they were 150s they were better than 140s in that they were Lightweight and had a higher rate of fire, but now they're just worse in every way than the original 140s. I mean, look at Thorn, it starts damage falloff at 30m, which is terrible in this meta, while Ace can reach over 36.
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Thorn can also 2h 1b kill someone. Ace can’t. Also ace is an outlier compared to other hcs.