Your profile says you have a bungie account since 14 years. I’m genuinely curious: is outriders the first ever other mmo shooter you play since halo (I guess), and destiny?

I wouldn't really classify Outriders as an MMO--more of a Diablo with guns sort of game. My point was that in Outriders builds are extremely easy to get going. You really feel like you have some agency over your character and the direction you're choosing. The gear you dismantle earns you mods that you can swap freely in and out of your gear as you see fit. It's extremely cheap to do so and your skill tree can be reset at anytime free of charge. You're in charge and you just build things the way you want. This isn't the case in Destiny. Builds are ridiculous to get off the ground when you factor in the farming and rolls needed. Exotics don't usually feel like they're worth building around and if somehow the stars all align your build doesn't end up feeling that great anyways. It always feels like Destiny is kind of working against the player. The slog of the arbitrary level grind, the restrictions on everything, the insane costs of doing pretty much anything. Don't get me wrong, I love Destiny but recently it hasn't felt like they're setting me free to play in their sandbox. I'm to obey their rules and play their way. It feels more like a part-time job than it does a game and it's exhausting. That's why I was drawing comparisons to Outriders. They're pretty much saying, 'here's our game, go have fun'. It just felt refreshing despite the pretty brutal technical issues. And to answer your original question (went on a little rant there lol). No, I've played lots of MMOs over the years. Guild Wars 2, D1, The Division and a few others. You can't beat the gunplay, movement, graphics and so on in Destiny but the gear and the builds are pretty much shit.