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3/19/2021 12:58:41 AM
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Bungie needs to address HC. The meta has been around for so long and it’s boring.
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Bungie: [i]HC's are no longer meta. Auto's are in[/i] Community: "This is the worst meta we have ever had. Revert it." Bungie: [i]Due to complaints we've nerfed autos and handcannons are back at the top...like always[/i] Community: "This is the most balanced sandbox we've ever had"
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tbf i think if the bullet magnetism towards headshots at range was fixed we could potentially be in a well balanced sandbox.
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Yeah it really has been dominant for ever now
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HC meta was usually about specific guns tho, like luna, not forgotten 120 meta, if it even is a meta, has been here for what? 1 month?
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Every weapon has a type as well. And we never get a rolling pulse, auto etc meta.
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We did have a pulse better. It was the grasp of Malik meta in d1. We also had an auto matter that lasted a year. And the general populace absolutely positively despised it because it just felt dirty. Me included. We had another auto meta at the beginning of destiny, with Uriel's gift. And Uriel's gift pretty much oppressed everything. We had a scout meta with meta at the beginning of the game. Everybody just sat in the back. No, we have not had an always hand cannon meta, but due to their versatility people always flock to hand cannons. Generally, the better players due to their versatility. In 120s have very good versatility. 120s are better in threes, but in general play a lot of other things can compete really well with them. Particularly 340 pulses, and autos. 540 pulses can hang too. people seem to think 120s are the gods and weapons right now and are easy I win buttons, but blueberries are learning very quickly this weekend that they actually take some real skill to learn, because if you have bad positioning and you're in a duel he will get outgunned in no time in 6s.
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We had a pulse meta back in D1 😂😂😂your argument requires you to go back 7+ years.
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Ok? You have anything intelligent to say other than "hahaha you said x"? If not, cool moving on.
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You countered my argument by saying pulse rifles were meta in D1. If you don’t have any intelligent response to how Hc have been meta for a while maybe you should move along.
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You pointed out the one example in my entire post that talked about a heavily strong meta that many people very much well remember, and ignored literally everything else. Who is the one with the lack of intelligence here. Stop f****** cherry picking and dodging. If you want to have a conversation that actually has some evidence, then cool nut up and say something. otherwise if you were just trying to not look bad and don't like to be wrong ( y'know, act like a child), cool, then shut up. And I wasted my time.
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HC meta has been around for a long time. Spare rations, not forgotten, Lunas, Ace and now prophecy, bottom dollar, igneous and steady hand. Yes other weapons have been meta for a short period of time, like suros but that didn’t last very long. When a HC can basically do the same thing as a scout and maps are best suited to HC then they will continue to be meta. Bungie are doing a decent job of closing the gap, but HC are still the best. There is a reason why HC are featured heavily on trial reports each week as the most common guns used. Even snipers have been nerfed such that they are hardly used nowadays. There you go, are you happy now? Now it would be great to hear how you respond by not referring to the past, but the meta over the last year or two.
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[quote]HC meta has been around for a long time. Spare rations, not forgotten, Lunas, Ace and now prophecy, bottom dollar, igneous and steady hand. Yes other weapons have been meta for a short period of time, like suros but that didn’t last very long. When a HC can basically do the same thing as a scout and maps are best suited to HC then they will continue to be meta. Bungie are doing a decent job of closing the gap, but HC are still the best. There is a reason why HC are featured heavily on trial reports each week as the most common guns used. Even snipers have been nerfed such that they are hardly used nowadays. There you go, are you happy now? Now it would be great to hear how you respond by not referring to the past, but the meta over the last year or two.[/quote] Well look at that You made a good post. How about we continue this trend huh? Absolutely you're right 150s used to be the meta. But then again I would argue it's more the fall of the player base itself in the things we have. They tried to make an auto meta. It tilted people way more than handcannons did for a year. That was the past year. Now let's examine why hand cannons seem to be coming back more and more as the meta. They do very good chunk damage to people. Their aim assist is pretty good. In 15 0 days, laughably good. They have very good air accuracy. Especially in comparison to many other guns. Hand cannons give the illusion of skill. And now this indirect stuff: Stasis is very punishing to those who can't push well. We have a lot of abilities that allow us to weaken people or do chunk damage in itself. Maps are geared towards medium to small. And probably the biggest reason: our movement is stupid fast. So I don't think the right question is to say we need to just make a new meta away from handcannons, Rather, we need some of these other things put into place so we can balance out or start towards a new meta of weapons other than hand cannons. Stuff like bigger maps, the stasis nerfs are a right direction, The light class updates that are coming in a few seasons. It would also be nice to have an air accuracy buffed for some of the sprayer weapons.
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we had auto at launch, well auto and mida.
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Edited by BC1 Edge: 3/20/2021 6:09:25 AMAuto at launch...when was launch?? Three or four years ago. Crazy right
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we had a pulse meta and pulses are still one of the best pub stomping weapons.
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Yeah that’s why when the trials report comes out pulse rifles don’t even feature in the top 10. They are competitive don’t get me wrong but when 120 HC can hit hard and from range they are better than scouts and pulses. I think 150s are in a good spot, 120 need to be reigned in. There is a reason why 120 are highly common in pvp.
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I said pub stomping. trials isn’t a pub stomping game mode. high impact pulses are right up there with 120s and imo can be better on certain maps if you got the proper aim.
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You are entitled to you opinion and not saying your opinion is wrong. that’s your experience.
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This is a joke right? 120HC aren't the issue... Its always been a cycle. Meta weapons are abused, nerfed, new meta pops up.
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HC in general have been the meta for a long time.
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Lol just stop😂
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You don’t think so?
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They really haven't. The past time HC were the true meta was around foreaken when lunas and not forgotten dominated. They change the meta whenever they feel like it. Unfortunately their will always be that weapon that is always good. Oh wait. Shotguns... They always seem to end up coming back.
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[quote]They really haven't. The past time HC were the true meta was around foreaken when lunas and not forgotten dominated. They change the meta whenever they feel like it. Unfortunately their will always be that weapon that is always good. Oh wait. Shotguns... They always seem to end up coming back.[/quote] The 120's are broken. Im not good at pvp really...but they shoulnt be able too kill me at more then 50. Meters while im firing dead mans tale
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Just 120s. Just nerfing an entire archetype due to one outlier to just shift the meta is just an indication that balance was never the goal.
