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originally posted in: Make Supers work against Champions
3/7/2021 3:07:19 PM
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[quote]Title, it's clear that running an offensive Super on Master NFs is pretty much useless because: 1. They're UP 2. They don't do damage at all against Champions Running Top Tree Striker today farming Master NFs was a pain, I had to basically switch back to Bubble, boring. Same for Warlocks, Well. Hunters? Orpheus or Revenant. You don't see offensive Supers anymore. So, why is it none of our Supers can counter Champions? I think that needs to change. [b]Arc Supers: Strong Against Unstoppable Champions[/b] [b]Solar Supers: Strong Against Barrier Champions[/b] [b]Void Supers: Strong Against Overload Champions[/b] That way, people would be more inclined to run different Subclasses and Trees, instead of just opting for the same defensive Supers.[/quote] All the stasis supers destroy champions. Same with every insta cast super. Thundercrash with the the new chest piece is like detonation a nuke. Great for this weeks ordeal.
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  • No, only Celestial Nighthawk can solo Champions, I'm talking about Legend and Master difficulties. A Super shouldn't need an Exotic for it to counter a Champion wtf. They need to be able to counter Champions, end of the story.

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  • [quote]No, only Celestial Nighthawk can solo Champions, I'm talking about Legend and Master difficulties. A Super shouldn't need an Exotic for it to counter a Champion wtf. They need to be able to counter Champions, end of the story.[/quote] You don’t need an exotic. All stasis supers can counter champions. All instant cast supers can counter champions. Champions really aren’t that hard to kill, especially on Master and below...

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  • Stasis just counters Barrier champs, Unstoppable just freeze but still have way too much damage resistance, Overloads still heal while frozen And nah, a Nova Bomb only takes away 2/3 of a Champs health on Legend and Master All Supers should be able to stun and counter Champions, raw damage just feels forced like with the new Titan Exotic

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  • Ummm if you’re using top tree nova like a normal person it works. Charge a grenade, then throw a nova and the champ is dead. All the damage in top tree is from grenades, use them.

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  • [quote]Stasis just counters Barrier champs, Unstoppable just freeze but still have way too much damage resistance, Overloads still heal while frozen And nah, a Nova Bomb only takes away 2/3 of a Champs health on Legend and Master All Supers should be able to stun and counter Champions, raw damage just feels forced like with the new Titan Exotic[/quote] I don’t think you get the point of champions... they’re not just regular enemies. You’re supposed to use the mods. While a champion is frozen, your teammates can damage it or clear out the other adds in the area. You can nova bomb and then just finish the champion. Most of the time, it isn’t worth using a super on a champion though. Just use the mods and they die very easily.

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  • Is that why some people are running Stasis instead of the burn in Nightfalls?

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  • [quote]Is that why some people are running Stasis instead of the burn in Nightfalls?[/quote] I was behemoth for half my runs this week. Then I switched to thundercrash with the exotic. All the stasis supers are great though. My team used a revenant in our GM runs last season and it worked great.

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  • Goddamn...huh. Maybe next week I can try out Shadebinder. For now, I think I’m comfortable with my usual load out for Hero difficulty.

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  • [quote]Goddamn...huh. Maybe next week I can try out Shadebinder. For now, I think I’m comfortable with my usual load out for Hero difficulty.[/quote] If you do, use dusk field nades. They completely stop barrier champions from activating their barriers.

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