No pvp is kinda bad tough. If the pve isnt challenging / evolving / incentive this wont be as interesting as destiny. Kinda like borderlands 3 (i LOVE this game) but once you got your guns even if they are fun...ehhh you dont really have places to use those. Same goes for destiny, farming pve completing raids etc...in order to jump into pvp with your brand new gear is incredible and makes you play more. If we only had pve activities in destiny...well...you would grind strikes and raids just to get guns to run...raids/dungeons and strikes. But im talking about destiny, not about the game it has become as the only "destiny thing" left is the gameplay feeling XD. Currently i would take any other looter game over d2. Especially since shadowkeep and beyond light are going to be the kind of major release we are going to get every year... Sayonara forsaken and taken king days... Bungie doesnt deserve destiny anymore.. Now i just hope bungie will focus on their "matter" project, and completely fail as they realize their community was here for destiny and not for bungie wich is one of the most hated studios :p I highly doubt a ton of people are going to pay for another bungie game considering how they act with their community / they manage their games whil also charging 40$ for a 20$ worth dlc XD