That comes across as the most self indulgent, entitled rubbish ever.... What a pointless response. Look at you proselytising your life view and opinion, as if anyone cares for that pseudo life-coaching bollocks.

Nah. Y'all don't know what y'all want and are terrible to the devs because of your frustrations. Which, I get, but y'all act like 5 year olds. It's a game. You aren't entitled to anything.

You said to share opinions constructively, which you did not follow. That’s what I meant by being hypocritical. Again, an ergo leave argument is a logical fallacy, don’t use it. It damages your argument, no matter what it is. I already explained why. Ironically, you yourself are acting the same way you described the original poster, something if an arrogant child. You have been faced with reason as to why you should change your actions and continued dismiss it, which is a very strong example of arrogance. It isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact that logical fallacies are damaging. To act as such is also arrogant. This also leads towards the hypocrisy of the post. I tried to stay constructive throughout this engagement so maybe you wouldn’t be very standoffish, but if you are calling some guy online an arrogant child, you should take a look in the mirror, and accept that you have some traits that you say you dislike and try to fix them, or at least be aware of them so you can make stronger arguments in the future. It’s not even that I completely disagree with your original post, but the way you portray yourself and use arguments is very bad and it’s hard to take someone seriously with the attitude in your posts.

Forsaken did meet their financial goals and it wasn’t even Bungie who did forsaken it was activision owned studios. Forsaken was the best thing since D2 launch and it wasn’t even made by Bungie. Go figure. Get your facts straight.

I wasn’t refuting your point on Forsaken being a net loss. I was giving the links because the other person asked for them and the convo seemed to be going in the direction of them not believing it to be the case. So, I opted to fix that.

You are correct. That added a gold title for grinding the same content we have been begging to be refreshed. Not actual content.

what a strange argument (based on when people start playing Destiny) - in that case then, clearly [b]you[/b] didn't play Destiny 1. Major release every year, which had 1 raid, NO seasonal content (maybe the odd quest here and there dropped alongside 'events') - but apart from that Destiny was a yearly drop. The Taken King for example (I see so many saying that is what Destiny should be but being negative about the current game). The Taken King was an yearly drop, which had about 8 campaign missions, a few quests and that was about it - the raid content was King's Fall - that was it. Basically the entire expansion was done for me in about 8 hours, then I spent the rest of the year running King's Fall, and strikes (if people want that, ok, sure Bungie would love to only need to release 1 raid, 8 campaign missions and a couple of strikes for a whole year). I feel while I agree with some arguments, nothing can be perfect and people are being led too much (far too much) by what is covered in social media, YouTube, Twitch, Reddit etc. If you actually looked at what forms this game then you may be a little less harsh and judgemental in your criticism. This community has become nothing more than a group of people who moan, complain and act like spoilt children - if anything kills the game it is that kind of behaviour. After the year everyone has just had, dictated to by an international pandemic, while Bungie were late delivering Beyond Light it is a miracle anything was delivered at all - These guys (Bungie) work hard, game development is not easy, it takes time, huge resource and to do it away from a studio at home is not at all ideal. As stated recently by a large streamer/YouTuber "here WE go again ... into the seasonal cycle again : 1st month everyone is hyped : 2nd month everyone exhausts themselves by grinding because they are so hyped : month 3 everyone starts complaining because they have nothing better to do ... Why, Why if people are not enjoying things don't they play something else? Why drag the entire community down in negativity?" For anyone in this community be new to it, a few hundred hours in, Youtube, streamer, no life gamer - it doesn't matter - everyone is entitled to an opinion, and everyone should value the opinion of others, but likewise you need to listen to ALL opinions not just your own personal one. To say this game is "empty" or "there is nothing to do" is ridiculous, personally I have 7000 logged hours in D2, I still have things to do, still have triumphs to finish - so for anyone to say there is nothing to do is very hard to listen to, it is likely more the case people can't be bothered to do what there is to do (because most people nowadays seem to want to log on, not work towards anything but just get everything without having to do any kind of grind or gameplay).

gotta ask, why is Trackstars opinion crazy? what qualifies it as such? what makes you right and trackstar wrong? Why is it unreasonable to ask bungie for simple changes that would make the experience so much more alluring? Why is it unreasonable to ask for no more sunsetting? Why is it unreasonable to ask for raids that take more than 30 minutes to complete?