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1/22/2021 2:02:00 AM
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You don't even know what's coming in the future none of us do. Fact is sunsetting needed to happen so new things could fall in without having to micro manage everything. Almost thre months and everyone is still whining about sunsetting but we still don't know what's to come. Sorry but most streamers can shove there ideals because 9/10 there in it for themselves and what they want. What they want and I want are massively different.
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wrong if a gun is good people use it sunset or not we have seen thet in d1 bungie want people to use new guns all bungie have to do is make guns people like
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Seeing new things are barely different, I don't see the reason why should they remove everything to make space for new things. Also, sunsetting means they failed to make things interesting to get. You see, there's almost zero identity in armor and weapons so there's little to no reason to chase things and perks are not helping. Hek, even I made some threads about it such as [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/257173225?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1] Foundry rework[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/257265678?sort=0&page=0]Tex Mechanica rework[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/258080067?sort=0&page=0] Unique reload animation[/url] If they make new gears interesting, people would try them. Sunsetting shows their incompetence in making loot
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The moon weapons look like trash but have good perks to make them worth using. None of what you mentioned are things most players look for in weapons. Do I want them to look kewl yea but if they operate like beasts i'll take that sacrifice.
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And what perk that made moon weapons worth using? Compare reissued moon weapons with the sunset one and I'm pretty sure the perks that make them worth using will be gone because "power creep". Their excuse of sunsetting is to shake the meta and control the power creep so see for yourself if moon weapons will still worth using or being trash looking weapons with average to trash performance
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Clearly you didn't pay attention when they said perks would change as well as the weapons tied to the dungeon would have different perks as well.
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You said moon weapons have perks worth using, and yet you didn't list them at all. I know the perks would change but it makes the question : Will perks that make them worth using like you stay, or they will change the perks to the point they're trash looking garbage?
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Explain the benefits of armour sunsetting please?
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Imagine targeting one aspect of sunsetting. Tageting the old gear takes it out of circulation allowing new gear to drop in it place since most the old stuff can't be re-aquired.
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Imagine deflecting a way Mulitple Valid points by repeating ones self
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What points all I ever see is the same thing players whining because there 2yr old load out is less effective. Less being the word since there are plenty activities that are still viable for the gear. Sunsetting has shown bungie the difference between the players willing to tough out the rough times, and the whiners who want to be catered too.
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You need to drop the Kool-Aid. This isn't rough times. This is Bungie Curating the TTK because we were Blasting though Challenges Way to Fast. Remember, First PvP gets Shafted, than PvE. It's Bungies MMO. Two Steps Forewards, 3 steps back. The Bungie Tango if you will any progress they make, is ussualy locked behind inaccessible, irratiting, irrational grind. Sunsetting was never about speeding up the Game Load times, and how long it takes to update the game. It was about "PoWeR cReEp," & the "Dev team unable to make Challenges, in timely manner to challenge the wide variety players can bring tools to the table.," I'm quoting TWAB announcements and it's to point out. Yes, your deflecting from everyone who is easing valid points. Your using the Reverse Victim Card, "You guys are playing victiam, and aren't saying what I want you to say! YOUR THE BAD GUY, NOT ME.," There are those who Play the Victim Card, and that's how we got into this Lopsided Sandbox Mess, with ARCHTYPES missing entire Guns, until they "Released," Guns. And those who use the Reverse Victim Card to try and state Bungie is right, and can never do wrong. This game needs change in both Devolpement Direction, and in Management Direction. Cause unfortunately the Same man has a Choke hold over his subordinates. Plenty of a Former Bungie Employees from Game Devs to "Simple," staff talk about the Lateral Violence and Toxic Work Place that is Bungie Secondary HQ in Seattle, where they stuff the Developing teams in like Lab Rats, till they burn out, than they go hire contractors till they can hire more. Look At Management. There's the Problem. Stop trying to blame the "Other," Player like the "Other," is some scapegoat, cause you keep using other players but never raidlse any points of your own. Only Deflect away.
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The "victim card" please dude get real. Pvp is we're it's at do the changes the small part of the player group demanded. As far as Bungie goes there problem was cutting ties with Activision and not letting someone else join and help. Does something need to change sure but sunsetting isn't it, since if they do it just means that players will start demanding other changes be reversed.
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Alot of Changes should be reversed Bungie has been Dead for years and Doubling down for just as long. Get serious and grow up, And stop hiding behind "everyone else is the playing the victim," that card gets old after a while man. Bungie has mad alot of desicions over the years that have only Hurt the game. Not all, but lots. They could do with listening to the Costumer. They are Game Developers, they Have to Sell what The COSTUMER Wants. And if they are selling the wrong product, they need to adept and change.
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Retail follows one fundamental rule sell what people want and toss out what doesn't sell. I've seen numerous times stuff is liked by a number of people but gets removed either because it's cost production out ways it's sell, or it's liked but is sold very little. You say the whole community hates sunsetting but that's an opinion not fact. Only way to find out would be to take a count of all the players and see. Something tells me there's more players that don't care then their are ones that do. Do changes need to happen yes but sunsetting ain't one.
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new things could fall in without having to micro manage everything so this happened?
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It's almost as if they fail at being a Triple A game company, got to big to fast and now don't understand that if they Can't Micro Manage an Evolving Sandbox, With a Dynamic Evolving RPG world, with solid story? Than maybe they should realize that they failed to deliver the product the promised 7 years ago? And maybe get rid of Management who wants to hold them back? [spoiler]if they Can't Micro-Manage, so they HAD to sunset. I'm Sunsetting the Game[/spoiler] it's not Hard to Micro-Manage a team dedicated to PvP Sandbox it's hard to to do anything Bungie is Failing. Companies have been doing it for years. It's time Bungie Caught up, or gave up and sold the I.P back to like Activision for example.
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No they can't especially for pinnacle/ritual stuff. Look at mountain top it got nerfed and sunset. By sunsetting the old gear there no need to spend time managing them at all. Since while still usable they won't affect the new content much.
