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This went from chapstick too denouncing people because they're supposedly rich.
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This is the way
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Edited by Unseelie Nil: 11/24/2020 7:22:20 PMWe are discussing oatmeal now.
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I enjoy activities like skiing though. Chapstick can make it a lot better.
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Bleh, rich folk.
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I'm actually pretty poor. I only go skiing once or twice a year.
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[quote]I'm actually pretty poor. I only go skiing once or twice a year.[/quote] lol
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Depends on where you live...it costs me less to go skiing than it does a family to eat out. It’s like the people who live next to a beach, they can just do something we landlocked folk dream about. [spoiler]Sorry, all out of st.[/spoiler]
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I live down in Idaho and I ski down in Sun Valley very often. Sun Valley is EXPENSIVE. Sometimes I make some trips up to Wyoming or Montana were it tends to be very cheap.
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I’ve got family down in Spudland, but never skied there. Sun Valley sounds great though, at least from what I’ve heard. I’ve not found a better resort than Whitefish, MT though. That is the way to spend a week, spending more time on the hill than the lift because it’s simply enormous. [spoiler]Sorry, all out of salt. [/spoiler]
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If your ever down in Wyoming, there's a great mountain called Grand Targhee. It's not terribly expensive and usually doesn't get very crowded.
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I’ve heard of Targhee quite a bit. I need to get down there. [spoiler]Sorry, all out of salt.[/spoiler]
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Yeah, you can even stay in a room for a couple nights and there's a heated pool and everything.
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Yeah, you can even stay in a room for a couple nights and there's a heated pool and everything.
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Oh, nice! [spoiler]Sorry, all out of salt.[/spoiler]
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Sure kiddo.
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It depends on where you live...it really does cost less to go skiing in some places near he and I than it does a family to eat out. It’s like the lucky punks who live on a beach and don’t realize how rarely, if ever, we landlocked types get to see it... [spoiler]Sorry, all out of salt. [/spoiler]
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If you’re eating out very much, you’re not poor. Even if skiing is cheaper for you, you’re still probably middle class or above if you’re doing it. I’m not poor anymore, but I used to be. Imagine not paying your interwebs or water heater bill for a month or two, so you can afford to buy food, and then still almost living solely off of oatmeal because you can’t afford anything else. [i]That’s[/i] being poor. That’s also a surefire way to get someone to hate oatmeal. Eugh. Hate that stuff.
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Different monetary standards for different areas I suppose, but that’s called being dirt poor, but most people who qualify as poor don’t meet that bar. I’m not trying to sound harsh, it’s just a statistical reality. Obviously someone who is dirt poor can’t do much outside of stay alive. [spoiler]Sorry, all out of salt.[/spoiler]
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I don’t know if you’re using an official definition from somewhere, but frankly if it considers people who can “only” go skiing once or twice a year poor, it’s kind of a silly definition anyway. As far as I’m concerned, “poor” means you’re struggling to make your bills, or have a hard time getting enough food for your family, etc.. If you’re well fed, making all your payments, and still have any decent amount of money to spare, that’s middle class. Lower middle class maybe, but still middle class.
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OK, that’s fair. I always judge the middle class by being able to afford a good bit of luxury items or activities. However my definitions of class are quite broad, and perhaps not in line with those used by most. I’m sure there are studies that break this down a lot better. [spoiler]Sorry, all out of salt. [/spoiler]
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I think middle class tends to be the widest ranging of the groups, so it makes sense where people throw the cutoff varies a bit. I think, generally speaking, people who are or have been super poor generally rate the cutoff at a lower point.
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I draw the line at the point where one can do something on a whim rather than budget for it. A poor family could scrimp and save over enough time to splurge on something fun, whereas a middle-class family could generally go, “hey this sounds like fun, let’s do it next week!” Then there are the rich people who hire people to earn them money... [spoiler]Sorry, all out of salt.[/spoiler]
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By that logic I’d still be poor. I usually need to plan in advance if I want to go to the theatres, or buy a new game, and if those plans get thrown off by an unexpected expenditure, I’m usually just out of luck. But I can’t call myself poor anymore. Because I’m not ever stressing about whether or not I’ll be able to pay rent next month, and I’m never worried about running out of money when I run to the store like I used to. If I were to call myself poor now, I’d feel like I’m one of those spoiled rich girls on TV always going like “My life is so hard!” over the smallest things.
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Yes, and that’s the other side of the coin: even those whom we quantify as “poor” (or think they have it rough) are still citizens of the U.S and [i]far[/i] better off than many people around the world. I too hate complaining about “hardships” or hearing people gripe about small things. It’s disrespectful to those who have actually suffered throughout history. :( [spoiler]Sorry, all out of salt.[/spoiler]