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10/18/2020 7:37:54 PM
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Nailing down a less discussed issue.

People who game as a hobby or even as a profession are called gamers. There is obviously a number of subcultures within the gaming community, but there is one, in particular, that seems to have been relegated to the back burner of the gaming world. It is one of the original groups of gamers. It is, for the most part, those of us who knew what it was like before video games were popular, or even widely available. The ones who grew up satisfied with a stick and a hill of dirt. Imagination was completely necessary and prerequisite to fun. Personally I used to get locked out of the house from breakfast to lunch, lunch to dinner during the summer, and I roamed the entire surrounding county, forests, hills, river and all, completely unsupervised from the time I was old enough to ride a bike. When video games came along, we were easily amused, we enjoyed hours, days, even years of going through the same missions over and over in different and more difficult ways. We CREATED challenges when the game became too easy. It was this group that inspired games, like Halo, Gears of War, command and conquer, age of empires, etc. Easily some of the best rated games of all time, Destiny, in its original form, was the dream of a guy who grew up without video games, it's depth, it's story, it's growth and style all reminiscent of those, "okay now the woods are full of ghost soldiers" moments of pure imaginative fun. Then, the growing presence of another culture began to shift things. This group has grown up with Halo being a classic..instead of groundbreaking. They grew up seeing video games as a sport, rather than an extension of leisurely play. They grew up with a sort of inherent value placed on their ability to "keep up" in video games. It became a different space. Not some place to ignore the world's problems, or your limitations anymore. It became more hostile, more greedy, and people started to covet things in video games, as well as berate and belittle eachother for skill level or whatever other thing is popular at the time. I don't profess to know which one better funds game companies, nor do I think either culture is right or wrong. But when we think progress, for the sake of progress, we tend to favor the younger, more intense gaming culture. I believe that we need to take a look back at the roots of gaming, and get some balance between the constant "beat the Joneses " style progress and game development we have been seeing, and the grunt birthday party/splocket racing of the days of old.
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  • 100% Its pretty sad to see. The fun was actually nerfed from gaming. Its damage goes well beyond just the toxic behavior as well. It makes many focus on finding people who benefit them, instead of building relationships, having fun, and gaming. People will befriend complete asshats, as long as they can help them complete raids, trials, etc. They will except this behavior and take being treated second class, for some loot. It empowers the toxic behavior. Gaming and games are moving away from 90% of the players, likely even higher than 90%. It would be like baseball/mlb deciding to cater to Mike Trout. Design the game and rules around his 1 of 1 greatness. How many could enjoy that? How many can do what he does? Who could keep up? Would it be even be fun trying to keep up? When we were kids and playing street ball, we all lined up and picked teams. Best to worst, but everyone made a team. Gaming world is on a path to just picking the top 2-3 and sending the others home or let them watch. The masses dont want “watchable” content, as bungie has stated they are trying to make. The masses dont game to watch the “Trouts” game. They want to play and try for a day one raid clear, not watch the top 3-4 teams try for worlds first. Sadly, Bungie has made its decision. They seem focussed on catering to this new gamer. This is also why many of us are playing destiny alone, as most of our friends have moved on. The destiny community is made up of the new gamer, a few of the old gamers who are trying to hang on, and new people trying it out. I think this is why they added f2p. It inflates the player pop stat and hides the truth. The only thing that will change the course bungie is currently on, is those who arent happy with the path, taking their money and walking away. Also, quit watching and/or supporting those who gain from this gaming style.

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