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So I guess the people who don't particularly have this problem or get stupid good drops are somehow the beneficiaries of a completely different rng system? Suggesting duplicate protection would be a good idea is one thing, suggesting the rng system is purposely designed to duplicate drops is another altogether. How many energy weapons are in the Pinnacle loot pools anyway? How many pieces of armor... etc. For every story of a guy who took a hundred clears to get Anarchy, there's a story of a guy who got it on his first run. But he quickly learns to quit talking about it. I remember getting EP shotguns and just staying quiet when someone asked "did anybody get one?" because I'd just gotten my 7th or 8th and I felt bad when some guy said it was his 30th try. It's rng, there's always going to be streaks and outliers. And it's the guys with the stories who are going to respond to your post. Maybe you're not holding your mouth right.
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  • When someone gets something in their first run and another has to go 100 times to get it its a terrible thing and it shows just how broken it is. Its plain logic and it doesn't matter what side are you on. This is a game and people pay for it and want to enjoy it, doesn't matter if you get benefited or not loot protection benefits ALL and its friggin selfish AF to give crap to people that get the wrong end of the stick just because your or his story is the other.

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  • That's not what I did. I gave crap to someone who said that the loot system was purposely designed to drop duplicates. Huge difference. Back in the days before TTK, developers who worked on the Diablo revamp that saved that game met at Bungie with Destiny developers and talked about how rng should always favor the player. Evidently, Bungie developers walk a different path. But there is just no evidence to support claims of intentional duplication. When you say things like that it weakens your argument.

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  • I actually meant it in general terms and how people does that here all the time, I was ranting pretty much but it really didn't come out that way so my bad, but yeah I see what you say and that Diablo story makes sense and it does seem like they don't work it for player's benefit, which sucks really cause it feels like cheap tactics. Oh and definitely agree that is not made to make duplicates, its dumb AF but it is kinda rigged for it to make you grind longer and get higher % on getting a drop on your highest level spot

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  • See... you can't say it's "rigged" unless you can prove it's rigged or serious people won't take you seriously. Bungie has implemented some duplicate protection and rng mitigation, but I agree they could do more. I understand your frustration. Getting screwed by rng in some way or another is almost a rite of passage in the Destiny Community. Personally, I've had it both ways over the years.

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  • I said "kinda rigged" cause I can't make a statement of something not proved by me.. BUT my years playing this game since launch has taught me how screwed up their system is and how it has changed and evolved to get worse every season. I rarely get benefited by it so actual statistics based on the time playing this game and common sense tells me its rigged AF wether how and how much it remains to be seen. This is not pure RNG and there is no such thing as luck, yeah streaks of good or bad things happen in life and the bad ones feel eternal which makes it relative. But no my man this system is not just RNG, and if you believe that then what you say is even less likely to be taken seriously cause you don't have the support to claim that their system is pure RNG 🤷🏻‍♂️

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  • Yeah, it sounds crazy and I think it’s safe to say Bungie doesn’t actually have multiple RNG systems, but... you have to admit, some players seem [i]particularly[/i] blessed while others are freakishly unlucky.

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  • [quote]So I guess the people who don't particularly have this problem or get stupid good drops are somehow the beneficiaries of a completely different rng system? Suggesting duplicate protection would be a good idea is one thing, suggesting the rng system is purposely designed to duplicate drops is another altogether. How many energy weapons are in the Pinnacle loot pools anyway? How many pieces of armor... etc. For every story of a guy who took a hundred clears to get Anarchy, there's a story of a guy who got it on his first run. But he quickly learns to quit talking about it. I remember getting EP shotguns and just staying quiet when someone asked "did anybody get one?" because I'd just gotten my 7th or 8th and I felt bad when some guy said it was his 30th try. It's rng, there's always going to be streaks and outliers. And it's the guys with the stories who are going to respond to your post. Maybe you're not holding your mouth right.[/quote] Got 1000 voices my first run through. On a clan mates 65th try, I got two from the first chest, and one more from the next two, for a total of 4 on that run alone. I have gotten 48 of them total.

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