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Personally, I'm tired of seeing these posts. I agree they could be going a better way about all this but that is not happening. It's just like the masterwork cores that were changed to enhancement cores and all the posts about that never did anything. You guys can post until you're blue in the face but it's not changing anything. I've lost count of how many solutions have been given to this company over the years for a few things and it was all ignored. The only reason anything changes with this company is when the majority of the player base, streamers as well show how upset they are like the 2 primary system and no random rolls. It takes the majority of the player base to get pissed off just to get this company to do the right thing, and that right there is a wake-up call that none of you are getting through to this company at all, and never will.
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  • Sorry, but I disagree. I think they will absolutely make adjustments based on the feedback, or based on what they already knew and failed to convey to the players. The system, as presented, makes no sense. There are too many flaws, and it is too important a part of the game to be left as is. My prediction? There will be adjustments to armor, either in the fact that old gear will be able to be used to upgrade(thus saving some of the cost), or they will allow us to get our materials back. Weapons? I think at the very least the have to allow old versions re-issued items to get the new power cap. Neither of which is the best solution, but both feel like quintessential Bungie "solutions".

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  • I agree there will be adjustments, but not adjustments that will really benifit us. What I've noticed as others have is that this company likes to control just about every aspect of how we play. It's the norm with games but this company has taken it too far limiting most options from having no skill tree to mods that ruined the games experience, and they've gone too far with the cost with things like master working items, etc. Those things in my opinion ruined the experience playing this game, removing what incentive the game had after Forsaken. It was this company making all the unnecessary changes that only was a benifit for the company.

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  • I used to keep all three characters up to date, doing quest lines multiple times, farming gear, playing different sub classes. But the more they micro-managed the game, the less efficient, and fun that became. The odd thing about Destiny, is that their "vision" is always at odds with what actually makes a game like this fun. From day 1 of D2, I constantly wondered why so much of the game was wasted space. Why all of the direct loot incentive was removed from things like strikes and in game activities. It constantly feels as if they are trying to get me to stop playing lol.

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  • I don't even need to add anything to what you said because that is where the game is now. I used to run all 3 as well. Then it went to 1, and now I've been taking a break. There is no point to play at this point knowing when the expansion comes out it will be the 5th time we are re-leveling up. So, I'm going to wait for a while after it's released to see how things play out.

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  • I pre-ordered every time since Taken King. Not this time. Have no choice but to wait and see. Cheers!

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  • Edited by Knox Knox: 7/7/2020 6:12:15 AM
    Giving up now Homie?. . . Don't forget Bro, you are not alone. I feel you Bruh! I feel you. But that doesn't stop me. I know this company. And I know exactly what this is all about. They are selling their game. They want their game to succeed. Not a lot of people see this. In fact only a few really know this. Sunsetting is not about guns and gear. It's about the future of the game. And when we say anything that involves the future, in a business setting, it means Money. That's what this is all about. All the reasons they say about sunsetting are superficial reasons. Guns, gear, they are not the end goal. The end goal of sunsetting is to keep everyone in the program and to stick to the program in the next 3 years. That is the plan! Why do you think they announced their plan for the next 3 years? They want everyone to stick to it. And sunsetting will do that. It will bring the money in for the next 3 years. That's what this is all about. I don't know about you but I don't like that plan at all. I already quit 2 weeks ago because I know exactly what this is all about. I like the game, mostly end game content only, I like it still. But I don't believe in the way they are executing this business model. This sunsetting is their business model. It's not just about guns. It's about the money for the next 3 years. And I don't like how they implemented that. I'm out. And I'm out still. Like I said, i quit the game. I'm not looking back. They can do whatever they want now. I'm not dropping a cent for this game. I'm happy now. And I've move on. I'm not looking back. I'm just here to party!!! I am my own Man, Homie. Just wanna let you know that you are not alone. Fight and don't give in. I won't. I'm saying goodbye to this Digital Slavery. I wish you the best Brother! Peace, Out!

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  • Trust me, I know 😎 It's why some of the first game is coming back. They are trying to use carrots but things like VOG are going to be -blam!-ed up big time. I already know VoG will not work for this game as it does the first one. In fact, it doesn't belong here. The reason it will be -blam!-ed up is because how their leveling system is set up, random rolls that don't improve the stats that are actually rigged like the mods in this game, we won't have full raid weapons and the weapons will be nerfed before it's released to match their watered-down mechanics, they will most like put the stupid champions in there, the mods system will -blam!- up the experience, they will look for ways to limit what weapons will work in the raid, and with how duplicates are a huge problem in this game it will piss people off. VoG will not have the replayability as it does in the first game. Sure, this company will make money off of the older content, but they will have -blam!-ed up the entire experience of what it actually offered having it brought over to this way over-controlled game.

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  • Edited by Knox Knox: 7/7/2020 1:22:33 PM
    Yep, Precisely. D1 guns are different than D2 guns. I'm sure it will make a difference in vaulted VoG. I was thinking of that as well. Remember the Oracles?. . . Clearly guns in D1 VoG matters in the raid because presence of the Oracle perk. I'm thinking maybe they'll implement an Oracle Mod that can be used on any D2 gun like what they do now, so you can use any D2 gun with an Oracle Mod in vaulted VoG. None raid D1 guns without the Oracle perk are still powerful than D2 guns overall, nonetheless. So we'll see what happens. Nevertheless, VoG is VoG. Lol. Been there, done that. Mechanics are probably the same. They can tweak it, it's still VoG. Lol. Maybe newbies will enjoy it. I had my time with it. Lol. It's time to move on. I'm still out. Not playing this Digital Slavery sunsetting bullsh*t anymore. Lol. Take it easy out there, and in here. See ya Homie!

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  • Edited by elevated_alien47: 7/7/2020 6:05:40 AM
    Forreal I’m tired of all these whining posts, it’s like a bunch of spoiled brats. You don’t like it stop playing and let us have fun. If enough people stop playing they will revert it but that will never happen this expansion looks lit and with VOG coming back next year more people than ever will be on.

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