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I get where you are coming from but you will still be able to use the weapons you love in 50% of the content in the game. This system just prevents the same stuff from being the raid meta example mountain top recluse anarchy they need to move these weapons out or the game will get power creeped. A necessary evil I think.
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  • Nope only 4 activities in fact. Vanguard strikes 750 Ordeals crucible and Patrols aside of the new Europa one Thats all content that relevant and still playable with old gear. Everything else drops sunset loot so nobody will play it and it will be irrelevant

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  • Those 4 make up 50%+ of the content in the game

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  • Edited by Yamabushi999i: 6/24/2020 2:55:34 PM
    Jeez when will you people quit trying to pedal this lie. The content is the new and reprised raids, Gambit, Trials, Iron Banner, exotic quests, NFs and Ordeals. That's not 50% - that's ALL of the key content of Destiny. What's left is scrap: 2 old raids until the level goes up, the least popular non-Trials/Iron Banner Crucible and what, strikes they could punch their way through, and only whilst not levelling? That's NOT what people grinded their hearts out for.

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  • You’re right you are able to use the weapons in MORE than 50% of content. All the story and adventures. Strikes. All non light pvp modes. Also bounties are still important these weapons can be used for crucible strike and gunsmith bounties and for all planetary bounties like devrim and asher. They will be usable in all raid content that was leeward before it and all content 3 seasons after.

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  • Stories and adventures! When do you need to infuse your best gear for that. That is NOT key content past beginners. Bounties! Oh Lord! You missed visiting Spider, you can do that too don't you know? Visiting Tess too. Don't forget that. Asher Mir too if they move him from soon to be vaulted Io. So that's 2 old raids then, like I said, up until they up the level requirements. They REMOVED ALL THE LOOT - ALL THE ARMOUR - ALL THE WEAPONS SAVE EXOTICS FROM THE GAME. But do enjoy your Pinnacle and most grinded for loot in your... Strikes.

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  • What is your definition of key content. Is it where light matters is it what gives powerful gear pinnacle gear?

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  • Past beginner, the key content is all the best replayable and most rewarding content and the new content to be provided. So that's Gambit, Trials, Iron Banner, NFs, all the forthcoming Dungeons, Quests, Raids. It sure as heck isn't ancient adventures, strikes and riding about on your sparrow.

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  • What about strikes bounties and regular crucible. Along with public events? They are repeatable and not new but reward powerful and pinnacle gear meaning they are relevant and some of the most rewarding with pinnacle drops+1 in crucible and strikes I think. And pre 1050 you should be doing all of those activities every week for gear so I’d say they are relevant maybe not new but still relevant

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  • They drop garbage. Those activities are garbage. Neither new content, not rewarding, nor replayable unless you haven't done 1,001 strikes already. Of all the Sunsetting garbage arguments this one is the weakest. They passed it off in the TWAB announcement like we're stupid, oh we're not exactly, technically removing them...you just won't be using them anywhere you would need or want them.

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  • You just said pinnacle gear is garbage that’s a new one

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  • Edited by Yamabushi999i: 6/24/2020 6:29:42 PM
    Skip badly reinterpretating my remarks. Pinnacle loot is dropped. Bounties, strikes, etc are dull, old, and unrewarding. And regardless if you like them our earned loot and armour should be available for all the new, replayable, and most rewarding...best activities in the game too.

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  • Yes loot should be earned from the newest activities. That’s why sunsetting is ok because that means we will have to do the new stuff for good gear like dungeons and raids

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  • They were doing that already without issue.

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  • You didn’t need raid loot for anything the only reason it is good is high stats and I could have just done leviathan got 60+ rolls then never touch any raid or trials or anything like that and would still be more than fine

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  • That and it is done of the most fun, best and innovative loot in the game. And again, no reason whatsoever to kill it and all other loot in the game.

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  • The problem was many of the pinnacles required ridiculous grinds to get.

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  • [quote]I get where you are coming from but you will still be able to use the weapons you love in 50% of the content in the game. This system just prevents the same stuff from being the raid meta example mountain top recluse anarchy they need to move these weapons out or the game will get power creeped. A necessary evil I think.[/quote] Not true. Any new content is out of reach. So PvE rolls are worthless. My Firing Line Clown Cartridge sniper isn't going to help me patrol Earth. And most of the old content is being removes alongside it.

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  • power creep is bull shit . bungie is too -blam!-ing worried what we use .

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  • Mountaintop too and recluse are a little too strong we should all ageee on that right? Now in order for me to stop using recluse as a trash killer we need to make something better than it. Then we need something better than that which means enemies get stronger and then that’s power creep. You would rather the game just be a checklist of the top 25 best items and once you get them you never have to go for another item again unless you want it for some other reason than being good. That’s not healthy for a loot based game

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  • Edited by Yamabushi999i: 6/24/2020 3:40:05 PM
    Too strong for who? Why should they insist on stopping us use our Pinnacle, powerful weapons? If those are OP, as designed, why not selectively trash them? Why then remove all armour and all other legendaries - 3664 in the first batch? Why then reissue the same 'problematic' loot again? Is it due to the complete incapability of the Sandbox team or to try to keep us on a very stale hamster wheel?

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  • I think the game would be much more stale without sunsetting. The same 2 loadouts for almost every activity forever doesn’t sound fun to me anyway I’ll get bored and then why would I ever do any content again. I can do it for fun but there is no loot incentive.

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  • Read the questions: if you're bored with 2 loadouts (change them?) then why not have those 2 trashed nerfed. Why kill off thousands of others including armour? Why then reissue them? Why not solve that tiny issue with Sandbox adjustments? Or, for everyone not naïve nor an apologist, this is just an flagrant attempt to put us on a very stale hamster wheel.

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  • The short answer is we aunset for content. Because if players are able to use the same guns and Sam armour forever a good portion will. And that is not healthy for the game because it becomes a checklist of loot. I got my weapons check full armour set check. And I can do that in a season. I would not raid if I didn’t need new high stat armour every few season now. I’m sure I’m not the only one I guess that is the hamster wheel but without it a good amount of players won’t have a reason to play after a bit

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  • Then SELECTIVELY NERF THEM. What's not healthy for the game under the pretences of Sandbox issues on a few items is burning down all our earned gear. That's why I left this game - my most favourite game ever - because it's the corruption and sickness of the company over the wellbeing of the players.

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  • And what about armour? And I agree weapons should be nerfed but you can’t nerf every weapon so once things are balanced then it comes down to what is my favourite. Maybe we all have different favourite weapons but allowing us to only use our favourites would make the game stale as we have no new reason to get gear but that’s just my take

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