I have died so many times because of that... and then t-bagged because they thought I was 'bagging when I was trying to barricade without any barricade juice. Esp. since I have left stick down to crouch/slide...clench even a bit too long and death by barricade... or failure thereof. On the plus side the barricade usually makes them regret meleeing.

This would also level the playing field with regards to crouch shotting.

I mean not really. The titan/warlock ability activation is long as fudge and you are frozen in place unable to do anything until the animation is over. They will never be balanced in any aspect unless you are suggesting to either buff those 2 abilities or nerf dodge.

They're balanced enough for what they are used for and you're a fool if you think otherwise. Hunters dodge is a twitchy panic oh shit ability to get you out the way and so it should be a shorter activation. Titan and Warlock abilities are both support based and are not supposed to be dropped in a panic. If you're flying in with a warlock and hoping to pop a rift in a heartbeat to clutch heal yourself in the middle of a gunfight, then thats your own fault for using it wrong. Same with titan shield, they're for hitting a capture zone early and putting up some defense to help out. Not just insta pop a wall in the middle of a gunfight. The balance I was referring to was regarding crouch spamming only, something titans and warlocks can do quicker and easier than hunters due to the way the abilities are activated.

They are? Weird. Barricade stops 500 damage which is half a mag of auto spam with 2 people shooting it. Rift is next to useless if you are a mobile player. Dodge cuts aim assist/cuts tracking of tracking grenades/cuts tracking of supers like storm/cuts the chaining of arcweb/reloads weapons while activating kill clip etc etc all while being semi spammable. Huh yeah seems balanced. Even in regards to balance of crouch spam/ accidentally activating an ability while tea bag shooting I'd take any form of an instant dodge over an ability that freezes you into place for any period of time leaving you defenseless 🤷‍♂️ So barricade/rift would need a buff or dodge would need a nerf to actually achieve any semblance of balance.

I stand by my comment. They're balanced enough for their intended uses. Complaining that rift is useless if you're a mobile player isn't a valid argument either. That's like saying: Dodging is useless if you like to stand still. Titan barricade is useless if you don't stand behind it. Grenades are useless if you don't throw them. Supers are useless if you're a player who uses them to jump off the map. Celestial nighthawk is useless if you're a nightstalker. Get where I'm going? Exactly. Rift is powerful if you place it semi behind cover and use it to maintain health/damage buff while peek shooting. Titan barricade could probably be upped health wise a little, but with tier 10 resilience you can summon a shield every 14 seconds so i feel that makes up for the lower health. Hunters dodge is powerful if timed just right. The actual animation of the dodge takes longer than a normal reload, so triggering kill clip is not some game breaking mechanic. Losing tracking nades could maybe be put just for the invis dodge for top tree nightstalker, or tie it into gemini jesters disorient thing. The slipping out of aim assist lasts only as long as the animation does, which is also time that they can't shoot you but you can still shoot them even if its a little less likely to land. Regardless though, the fact is you can still shoot the hunter mid dodge and have taken half their health off before they've finished the animation. Hunter dodge really isnt as gamebreaking as its made out to be. As for the balance. Like I said, they're balanced enough for what their design is meant for. That does not mean they are all the same effectiveness in every situation though, it means that relatively they are have equivalent effectiveness when used in the right situation. If you're complaining that a warlock rift (a stationary ability that reinforces you in a location) isn't helping you be more mobile, then thats on you for being a moron. The argument about balance will never be settled because people are too blind to see that the game isn't supposed to be balanced. The entire game is built on variety and different perks/stats/abilities excelling in different situations. Every class will have its gripes about the other classes, and every class will have a defense for the gripe. Only way to end the argument is to realise diversity and variety are supposed to be in the game. But, all this is irrelevant. My comment was that making warlock and titan abilities a double tap to activate rather than a hold, would also level out the crouch shotting thing. Which is true.

The class abilities are in no way balanced. Dodge may as well be 9 exotics in one. If you think otherwise i'll take whatever it is you are smoking.

I'll humour you. If you can tell me exactly which 9 exotics the hunter dodge is then I will concede.

I already did I guess you haven't been reading what i've been typing

Nah you didnt. You listed some things that the hunter dodge can do. You said the hunter dodge may as well be 9 exotics rolled into one. So, go on. Which 9 exotics all at once is the hunter dodge the equivalent.

I already listed off the abilities the dodge has that may as well be exotics 😊 reading must be hard for you. Try scrolling up.

Yes because we've gotten this far, exchanging a bunch of comments so clearly I can't read 🙄 childish attempt to throw an insult out because you're running out of any kind of counter argument. You listed some abilities yes, well done. But you said it may as well be 9 exotics. So tell me exactly which 9 exotics they are. Lay them out in a nice easy list, all the exotics a hunter dodge is at once.

🤷‍♂️ it's not my fault you can't scroll up. The abilities may as well be seperate exotics. I've already listed all of the broken abilities for you. If you can't be bothered to read them that's on you. A dodge should be a dodge and that's it. If you want it to do other things like cut the tracking of tracking grenades like I listed above but you are apparently to lazy to read then that should require an exotic. It requires an exotic to be able to shoot through a titan barricade. Without that exotic a barricade is just a barricade. Warlock dodge is just a dodge.

Ugh whatever. You said the dodge may as well be 9 exotics in one, and have now failed to back it up, plus now you've resorted to insults. Argument lost and you're boring me now. Have a good day.

Are you implying crouch strafing is a problem? I crouch strafe with a hand cannon, there’s a skill gap to it.

Not at all. I can, and do, do it on my hunter. Im just saying it would make it more balanced between the classes as its currently much easier to do on a titan or warlock due to the hunter dodge being double tap. Easier probably isn't the right word as its just pressing one button, but theres actually timing involved for a hunter so as not to trigger the dodge, whereas the other classes can just spam as quick as possible with no risk of accidentally triggering a class ability.