[quote]Am I missing something?[/quote] Yes. [quote]WTF is powercreep ???[/quote] Power creep is a problem that afflicts loot games, and other games where power progression (players chasing after in-game power) is a focus of the game. Once a players reaches a certain level of power, there is no motivation to chase after anything NEW in the game...unless its more powerful than what they player already has. But you can't keep giving the player power forever. If you do, you eventually break the game. In Destiny terms, we eventually just become so powerful that nothing in the game remains a threat (we're one-shotting everything)...and the game becomes either ridiculous or boring. That tendency for loot to become more and more powerful....and players more and more powerful is "Power Creep"....and its a serious risk to the health of these kinds of games. [quote]If I have to grind for weapons I already had. What's the dang point of sunsetting?[/quote] Because thats how games like this----all successful ones----keep power creep out of the game, while prerserving your motivation to chase loot. In short, they take either your gear away (by not allowing you to level it up)...or they take its POWER away from you..... ...so they can give it back to you in some other part of the game. ALL of these games are a dance of giving the player power with one hand, while you take it away from them with the other. That way you always have a source of power to chase...but you dont' turn the game into a hit-and-giggle affair through power creep. But you also don't strangle the game by correcting for power creep so strongly that there is no power to chase (which is where Destiny 2 is trappped right now). [quote]I'm going to be able to get the same weapons again so why not let me infuse the ones I already had?[/quote] That's not what suseting is. Think if the original Pinnacle weapons. Becuase they are the clearest example of power creep...and the problem of letting us keep weapons forever. I have Loaded Question. Great weapon. Underrated weapon. One of the NASTIEST crowd-control special weapons in the game. I've made entire ad-waves DISAPPEAR with a single shot. I feel powerful when I play with it. BUT ITS A GAME DESIGN DEAD END. I basically haven't used ANY other arc fusion rifle since I got it. Because I can just keep leveling it up and use it everywhere. [i]So HOW do you make any other arc FR relevant in a game with Loaded Question? [/i] The only way to do that is to: 1. Make a fusion rifle even more powerful (power creep). 2. NERF the weapon so that something else ---of equal power can take its place. (Which is what Bungie has been doing for the last two years). 3. Rotate the weapon out of the game by LIMITING your ability to infuse it (increase its item level). So once you progress to a certain point....you can no longer use the weapon in the hardest content...and you have to go out and replace it. Every other loot game in existence uses Option three. Because it is the option that allows you to both manage power creep, and preserve the drive to chase after loot. Option 2 has forced Bungie to dilute the power of weapons down to a bland sameness...and break any standouts...because NOTHING ever leaves the game. So the game lurches from power-creep problems....to loot motivation problems and back again with no middle ground. What Bungie is doing is broken..and they never should have promised to let us keep gear forever in the first place. It just took them 5 years longer than it should of to realize that its not possible. [quote]I'm going to have the same damn gun at max power anyway so what's the frickin poin[/quote] You won't. Because Bungie doesn't have to give you that power back in the same place. IOW, sunseting will allow them to do what they are currently doing....but in a far more elegant way. They can shift the meta around to keep the game fresh...but without having to BREAK weapons by nerfs. In a world of Sunsetting, Bungie could have moved LMGs out of the "meta" for boss damage in the end game by simply limiting our ability to infuse them.....rather than BREAKING THEM with a 20% damage nerf. The result is Bungie gets their meta shift....but we get left with weapons that are still USABLE in other parts of the game. So I'd be able to happily use my LMGs in the strike play list and for doing boss damage in Gambit....rather than having them sit in the vault because they feel like I'm shooting a pellet gun at them.