[quote]We'll were not coming back and nothing you do out side of making a flawless only que matchmaking for those that have already gone flawless that weekend will bring us back. [/quote] So what you're saying is unless Bungie makes another playlist that simultaneously limits the matching pool and makes going flawless once a week completely meaningless and easy the casual players won't come back? And what would that solve? Nothing at all. Because it will make flawless easy come Monday every week and then either: a) That playlist wouldn't provide access to any additional loot that the normal one does, thus making is even sweatier without a justifiable reward; or b) That playlist will provide new loot. Which pretty much just re-creates the exact same problem we have now - casual players feel "hopeless" and can't access the loot from Trials. I'm sorry but that just isn't the solution. Catering an entire playlist to casual players while simultaneously damaging the experience or value of others is not the right solution. The best solution is to just design system that's inherently protect the casual experience within one playlist. The loot needs to be just overly abundant. Post game drops. Daily bounties that drop armor/weapons. Increased tokens from wins and bounties. Increased drop chance and tokens from games (win or lose) further up the card. Bonus tokens and more loot from second, third, etc. flawless runs. Trials needs a loot system that incentivises better players to stay at the end of the card so casual players have a fighting chance at the beginning and can therefore acquire loot and a sense of "I just won three games. I CAN do this." Edit: And the whole "locking loot behind x wins and then taking all the tokens you gathered in your attempts for the week" BS is just that. BS.