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Destiny will always be the game that could be so good if.....

At this point it should be clear that the Destiny franchise will always be known as "The game that could have been so good if....". Trials is just the tip of the iceberg. Bungie takes one step forward and 3 steps back. They are completly clueless and out of touch with their PVP community. And this is not the casual players, Streamers or Top 1 % players fault. It's 100 % Bungies fault. Bad decisions after bad decisions. There could be so many easy ways to revive the pvp player population: One example: Give us an Rank and CBMM Unrank system to earn loot and titles from. Just Imagine an unranked playlist where you can earn Shader, Ornaments, a Title every couple Season, masterwork materials etc. from. Give us tasks to do like: earn 1000 final blow Headshots during Season 17 for this Shader, Kill 500 crayon eating Titans for this Emblem etc. etc. etc. It could be so easy to make people play pvp.....
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  • This game would be a lot better if they had permanently separated PvE and PvP from the start.

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    • [quote]"The game that could have been so good if....". [/quote] Thread started so promising...but lost me while speaking about PvP. PvP has been, is and always will be a major Reason while this game is broken as it is until PvP is separated which it should be.

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    • Agree in full. It’s no particular area of the playerbase’s fault which I feel like no one can understand, it’s always blame the casuals or (way more often) blame the hardcore/streamers. I think it’s pretty clear that the company making the game has a really hard time with design philosophy even after 5 years of this franchise. I know you can’t completely please everyone but there are things that everyone wants, and I don’t mean specific activities or changes but I mean fundamental changes in the game’s design like better loot incentives, less bounties, less meaningless grind et cetera.

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    • I upvoted just for "crayon eating titans"😂 But you do have a valid point.

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    • If... It had better leadership & someone with talent as the figurehead

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    • Trials isn’t the tip of the iceberg, it’s more like the thousandth straw on the camel’s back and it just won’t break because players keep coming back to this trainwreck every season.

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    • Trials is not the tip of the iceberg. If you thought Trials was going to be good after watching Bungie botch just about everything since Shadowkeep launched 5 months ago, you need your eyes checked. The iceberg has been in full view for months now. I’m not sure why the PvP community, even after straight being neglected for an entire year, thought Trials would launch well or be successful?

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      • The only way this game will ever be good, is if Bungie goes bankrupt and sales it to another studio. Furthermore, the only way the gaming industry will ever be amazing again is if Luke Smith never works in it again.

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        • There was a time destiny would be remembered as that now but it will always be remembered for the cash grab steaming pile of donkey shit that it has become

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        • ...if it had direction, since release it's been rinse repeat with a different coat of paint

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        • imagine how much better this game would be if design wasn't focused around retention for micros, and lowest dev costs to maximize micro profitability all of the eververse rewards would be in the game instead of the cash shop, grinds would be focused on large scale palatability and completion instead of focused on whatever segment holds the most whales that buy micros there wouldn't be this 'don't let the grind stop ever' mentality of design

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        • At times I think Destiny is too big for Bungie to truly support At least the season pass structure is. Honestly I'd be willing to go for another content drought if it means they can put more time and effort into their content

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          • Edited by Bullitt: 4/4/2020 5:25:46 AM
            The PVE population ain't looking so great either with a lot of their dumbass changes like the overnerfs to sniper rifles and the terrible champion mods.

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          • Destiny will always be the game that could be so good if..... it was made for a single audience like every other competent game.

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            • You’ve got it wrong, they can’t even take one step forward... they someone how messed up the copy and paste job of trials.... at this point I’m convinced they are so oblivious to their cluelessness. Hell, they can’t even deploy patches properly to fix the game. New exotics are constantly disabled, why? Cause they are incapable of delivering a finished product.

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            • If they had built on D1 we wouldn’t be in this mess. Not turn the game into a watered down esports wanna be

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              • Ill die defending my opinion that its 50-50 between the community and Bungie’s fault

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                • Well put honestly even at the highest point of D1 it still felt like everyone was reading the lore and actual story (that wasnt even in the gosh darn game) and thinking "man this game could have been so much better" and sadly it seems like thats all destiny is gonna be

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                • They need to split and have a team work on pvp which is balanced separately, and a team that works on pve like developing new raids.

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                • Definitely a case of what could have been.... they could even have developed an e sports mode where u get given set guns for that mode only....

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                  • They're totally out of touch with the players. Have half the community prefer sbmm and half cbmm? Make every playlist but 1 sbmm instead of a split... Players asking to toggle emblem stats? Remove all of them, wipe them clean and when the community gets angry bring back a select few. Take trials out for a year and a half to "work on it" then bring it back with old D1 armor and weapons (be sure to not include the cannon, pulse and lmg so you have something "new" next season), add in tokens no one wanted and remove all unique rewards from flawless while also making the most efficient way to get loot 3 game resets

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                  • [quote]At this point it should be clear that the Destiny franchise will always be known as "The game that could have been so good if....". Trials is just the tip of the iceberg. Bungie takes one step forward and 3 steps back. They are completly clueless and out of touch with their PVP community. And this is not the casual players, Streamers or Top 1 % players fault. It's 100 % Bungies fault. Bad decisions after bad decisions. There could be so many easy ways to revive the pvp player population: One example: Give us an Rank and CBMM Unrank system to earn loot and titles from. Just Imagine an unranked playlist where you can earn Shader, Ornaments, a Title every couple Season, masterwork materials etc. from. Give us tasks to do like: earn 1000 final blow Headshots during Season 17 for this Shader, Kill 500 crayon eating Titans for this Emblem etc. etc. etc. It could be so easy to make people play pvp.....[/quote] GiT GuD

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                    • You're spot on. You should go make a game better than Destiny. It's obvious you know how.

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