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Edited by CookieNiki:
3/31/2020 11:14:06 PM
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That's hilarious considering how many PvP'ers always state that they are the majority of the players of this franchise and that without them the game would be dead long ago. But now here's the proof that nobody else cares about competitive PvP in this game except their minority. And they are so few that they even have problems getting other PvP'ers to play with.
It's also a lesson (another one) for Bungie that clearly overestimated the value of Trials. They thought it would be a great success that would increase players count. Sorry Bungie, PvP wasn't the reason that made the majority of players to buy Destiny in the first place. It's both sad and hilarious that after 6 years you guys still haven't reached such an obvious conclusion.
With Trials Bungie want to create a light "e-sports" mode INSIDE the game and the result is that everyone who doesn't want to be cannon fodder, just stay away of that mode.
I know I do. Since ever.
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Yeah I don't get it, PVP'ers aren't even 20% of the community........ Those pvp numbers are skewed, by the people doing bounties to get their light level. When trials of Osiris hit this season, it didn't make a dent at all in steam numbers, that means PVP is nothing to this game, the people playing solely for PVP, are still doing what they do, the people that are solely playing PVE are still doing what they do.
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I ONLY play Destiny for the PvP. PvE in Destiny sucks ass. Bulletsponge enemies does not equal difficult encounters. It's repetitive and boring; do it once and I'm done but the games design makes it so I need to slog through it 10000+ times just to get viable weapons for PvP. That said, I HATE the state of Trials and its current iteration. I'm not touching that mode with a ten-foot pole until it gets an overhaul; probably in 14 months or so.
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Bungie needs to learn to shut out the cry baby streamers.
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Edited by The 7th fall: 4/1/2020 8:37:55 AMOh f*** e-sports. There is so much going around that none of it is unique anymore. Shoving that in a game series that's been having a mid life crisis since TTK DLC was a stupid idea.
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100% agreed. Bungie [b][u]once again[/u][/b] shows that has zero notion of what this game should be.
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uhm pvpers are pvers you cant get any of the meta if u dont pve ?!??!
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🤔 trials is end game PvP.... the same as the raid is end game for PvE.... do you consider the raid an e-sport? I don't. I don't consider trials anything like an e-sport either.
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It actually kinda is during the rush for world’s first. The bigger point is “to each their own.” The biggest problem with PvP are broken lobbies that can’t form full teams, cheaters due to outdated and unsecure Y2K peer to peer game hosting, no true player ranking or tiering, using SBMM the wrong way - to engineer stomps, and perverted bounty incentives. You know, game design.
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That's just a meaningless title for the raid and for flawless. Card based matchmaking is a form of sbmm. The token system is pretty arse. One thing I can say i've noticed is on this account when I run trials for the most part I play against somewhat high elo teams.... I got on my alt to help a friend go flawless that kind of struggles... from game 1-7 we never played a team that was diamond in elo and the average kd was .7-1.1 so it feels like there is some form of hidden sbmm tied to the card based match making.
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I have three accounts on separate consoles - also noticed the same thing. Outside of trials, one major problem with SBMM in comp is that your platinum player has a hard time getting off the floor while average players have a much easier run to 5500. Not a reason to throw everything out - but tuning matchmaking does deserve attention. Good points.
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Edited by FataLVisioN_Oo: 4/1/2020 5:33:18 PMYuppppp jumped on my alt last season and helped that same buddy who is a .6-.7 kd hit 5500 and man....... those lobbies were a joke. Makes me just want to absolutely tank my KD 😂🤣
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Since when Raids are competitive by nature? Also please consider that I called it a LIGHT e-sports and I wrote e-sports with quotation marks.
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I don't think raids are competitive. And destiny PvP I don't really consider competitive. It also feels like there is some hidden sbmm behind the "card based match making". On this account I usually play against high elo teams.. jumped on my alt to help my buddy who kinda struggles go flawless.. from game 1-7 we played all low elo teams that were .7-1.1 kd. All of which were on the same wins we were at the time of playing them.
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Bungie said sometime in the past that PvP in D2 was a mix of CBMM and SBMM but how that's mixed when matchmaking nobody knows. Trials is supposed to be the pinnacle of competitive PvP in Destiny, so they say.
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Edited by FataLVisioN_Oo: 4/2/2020 12:24:10 AMI mean it's end game PvP but it's about as pinnacle as comp and comp has sbmm. A 2.0+ kd's 5500 experience will be drastically different then a .5 kd players 5500 experience. Same can be said for trials.. I mostly play teams of nothing but diamond elo players on this account.. on my other account where I help my lower skill buddies the opponent's are mostly silver and bronze.
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No, raids are not an e-sport because you are not competing against other humans. Difficulty doesn’t make something a esport.
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I don't consider anything in destiny difficult or competitive.
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Well that comment added nothing to the conversation.
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This game has so many training wheels
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There's no new PvE content so either keep playing the same thing over and over and over and over again or at least for PvP you may meet new teammate or oppoent
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Trials isn’t an esports and was never intended that way, just endgame PvP...
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I called it a LIGHT e-sports and I wrote e-sports with quotation marks.
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That is why Trials of Osiris is a social experiment
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Lmao this game and the ppl who play it are very toxic. Especially ppl who make posts like this. Everyone just pointing fingers and spewing hate. Very nasty. Smh. If you like the game, play. If you don’t, then stop playing.
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[quote]If you like the game, play. If you don’t, then stop playing.[/quote] That's exactly what I would give as advice to PvP'ers. Thanks for pointing it out.
