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Edited by Luigigod: 11/6/2019 8:47:02 PM
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POLL: Are you happy with the current state of The Crucible?

Yes

487

No

1036

No opinion

181

Have a reason(s) why you like / don't like it? Comment about it, you can't help improve the game by doing nothing. Edit: Over 1000 votes, nice!

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  • Let's be clear, this poll would favor the "no" option at pretty much any point in Destiny history. I'm not making excuses for the current meta at all though but still.

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  • It's been a mixed bag, but mostly happy with it. My main objections are the PVE nerfs for Breakneck, Redrix, and Magnificent Howl perk.

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  • Matchmaking is bad from straight up to after receiving or giving mercies. Matchmaking Time is way too long, and fails too often. Sometimes is takes more time to search and load into a game than complete it. Too often actually. Nothing to chase, but donkey like PL carrots. Not enough competitive weapons to really have versatile fun. Supers in D2 are panic supers except for OEM titans who have both the panic slam and wandering bulldozer. Some maps aren’t designed for control, however they’re more accurately described as kill lobbies for campers and crutchers.

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  • I don’t think it’s awful. I’d say that high impact fusion rifles could use a little bit of a range reduction.

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  • It's not bad right now. I don't get the hate for recluse, personally I find other things far worse.if you want a weapon that is most op I would say bygones.

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  • Matchmaking prefers connection? Lmao you no, I average 50(I know whatever could better)ping. Yet every game I get destroyed by a phantam player who appears and disappears, note it's only 1 or 2 players (cant have perfection, I understand) or you unload 6 multitool shots, or 5 Jade rabbits, or my favorite two shot guns point blank with a nice melee ability on top and the player runs away and you die from a mean look and kick to the shin. Then they randomly die ans it shows that little explosion being their death from you. Every, single, game. Connection my ass, I'd rather get my asskicked by a better player (happens lots lmao I aint no pro)

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    • Edited by killa beaver: 11/6/2019 4:18:45 AM
      It’s pretty well balanced, the only real outliers are erentil, recluse and OEM, MT is more of an annoyance but if recluse gets nerfed/changed MT won’t be to much of a problem. Other then that the overall weapon balance between HC, scouts, pulses is probably the best destiny has ever seen, (rip autos, don’t really miss them tho) that and matchmaking in control decides I should play people from Germany and China at the same time, MM is stupid laggy. but classic mix MM is generally pretty stable.

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      • Edited by FallenGaltier: 11/6/2019 4:35:30 AM
        Reel in the range of high-impact fusions or make all fusions go back to bolt instead of hitscan and buff handcannon range back up a tad not much. Also I wish there wasn't so much holding each other's privates on the other side of the map. But since we have snipers in the other two slots now I can deal with some of that. Other than that everything else is fine best it's felt in awhile

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        • The only people I constantly see complaining about crucible now are handcannon-exclusive users. Those guns have dominated crucible for ages now, and some were easy cheap kills. Now a lot of people have to change how they play and can’t hang anymore. At least with scouts there’s no cheap easy win. There’s enough distance to get in cover, and you have the option to use a sniper to one tap a scout user. My only complaint with crucible is the matchmaking at times.

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          • [quote]Have a reason(s) why you like / don't like it? Comment about it, you can't help improve the game by doing nothing.[/quote] Connection quality, cheating, and to some degree matchmaking are what I would like to see addressed first. Specific weapons getting balance changes is nothing compared to that.

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            answered "No", but it's need to be specified. actually I like most modes, maps (not all, but in total) and rules in total. I have much experienced in this (incl. organization local tournaments by UT400/2003/2004, making special maps for it and so on), and I have to value this part. BUT – there is much issues with netcode/cheaters (I think it's mixed). E.g. when I play Momentum with "Higher damage" rule, most players die by a few bullets while some other stay still under direct SMG/AR fire from 2..3 opponents and lazy shoot them from hand cannon one-by-one. Or (in the same mode) when I shoot full SMG mag to titan running directly to my face with no "super" nor overshield and it's take about 1/6 of his white bar – that's absolutely not acceptable. (it's like most telling example. there is kind of shooting through walls, non-stop supers etc. but they're less often issues) So there is the difference between theoretical and actual gameplay in Crucible. Theoretical it's about good (very good) as for me. But mentioned issues made experience... much less enjoyable. I'd say you have to fix that issues first not to search "different rules". I mean such searching is good itself but it won't be valued while mentioned technical issues is present.

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          • No, there are no actual gun fight, just people runing around with their one shot weapons that take so much skill to use (sarcasm)

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          • Edited by HollowedWayfarer: 11/6/2019 2:36:53 AM
            Doesn’t feel very consistent if you get what I mean. One match things go amazing for you, then the very next it’s like you can’t even do anything right.

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          • It’s the worst pvp experience I’ve ever played. I just play it because it’s a break from the pve, which is one of the best experiences imo. Easier than switching game discs. But to reiterate, pvp is awful

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          • Edited by FunK: 11/6/2019 4:19:15 AM
            I'm OK with it all for the most part. Give 3m back on HCs and I'd be happier. That said, I'm fine with pulse, scout meta's too so not a huge issue. CHEATING is a bit too rampant! Free accounts shouldn't have access to comp and perhaps other playlists since they just seem to be free accounts taking advantage. There needs to be a time / money investment for folks to access meaningful crucible activities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWnRxkIbkuc perfectaim.io is the culprit. Find it, reverse engineer it, detect it and hardware, IP, and username ban that crap. It's so toxic. Next, figure out a way to make free accounts put in about 40 hours of grind before crucible is open or make them buy Shadowkeep for access. Do something because it's BS out there right now. Matchmaking though is insane, especially in comp. I'm low level and keep getting matched against high glory players in solo comp. Sometimes glory isn't a good indicator because there are lots of folks that suck that are much higher than me, but when I'm under 1k and get matched against 5k and 4k players and have some damn scrubs with me that can't seem to do anything, it gets pretty frustrating. Whatever the skill factor you're using seems broken to me. I get sooo many potatoes on my team and just can't seem to overcome it. Other than that, I think it's OK for the most part. Other than the gate lord's eye exploits (come on now, that is a bit insane for hunters and titans). It's not bad. I would definitely suggest removing the artifact perks for comp though. It's gonna get nasty if everyone uses that as their crutch instead of gameplay and tactics.

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          • If they respond to broken gear faster pvp would be beautiful.

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          • Too many low risk high reward options that decrease the skill gap. I'm not looking for a League of Legends size skill gap or anything but its kinda cringe how easy some of the stuff in this game is anymore.

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          • Edited by oftenauseous: 11/6/2019 3:54:33 AM
            First off, spawning spots are terrible; bungie make designated spawn areas where you don't INSTANTLY DIE, Special Grenade Launchers are cancer and broken, Pinnacle weapons are too broken and too easy to get for how stupid broken they are against someone without one (IM LOOKING AT YOU RECLUSE AND RANDY), Shoulder Charge or Supernova Grenade should not one shot people it's just stupid, There should NOT be Exotic Quests tied to Crucible I don't know if Bungie realizes this but some players just aren't good enough for PvP or they don't like it and dread even being in a quickplay game due to how cancerous and unbalanced it is. One Eyed Mask is way more powerful than any other Exotic for other classes, Titans get it so easy in Crucible it's humorous Titans also have a Exotic that lets them get a shield bash right after another WHO THOUGHT OF THIS AS A GOOD IDEA?

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          • No, but not because I think it’s crappy. There will always be a few things wrong, and there’s always room to improve.

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          • I think it’s in a solid spot right now. I still wish autos and some scouts where a little more affective, and as some others have stated I think the last column should be disabled in crucible (at least comp.

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            I'd like it more if the Artifact mods weren't active in Crucible. Or at least just the final two columns(the ones that strengthen certain abilities and/or shorten cooldowns).

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          • Momentum is pretty fun ngl

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          • Matchmaking is to strict and makes every game a sweat fest.

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          • Matchmaking and poor server quality still an ongoing issue.

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          • Shotgun range is still ridiculous

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            • Edited by DampishMids: 11/6/2019 3:26:38 AM
              The game lags and runs like trash. Gun damages are inappropriate. Handcannon range is junk and has no character with a 4m difference on even the greatest ranged 150rpms. Too much ability cheese with the trash artifact. Handheld supernova every 15 seconds. And tons more. Like invisible aim assist removing shadestepping hunters. The game has become a stale campfest with scouts because of the handcannon nerf Pulses were buffed for the 90th time. The spawns are atrocious. To the point were you question if theyre actually putting a handicap on you for the other team. Its the worst in modes that actually matter. Like IB and comp. The sandbox is a horrible skill less mess. Its just cheese whatever you can. And mark my words but these OP abilities are what leads to special weapon abuse which leads to special weapon nerfs. Also im a titan. I am so sick of seeing 1 eyed mask. Its not the only damn titan exotic you bums. I hope they take that helmet and nerf it right into the ground i hope it gets no perks. Im so sick of it. Just goes to show how shit the destiny community is. They love stale gameplay as long as they dont have to try as hard. Bunch of annoying losers the destiny playerbase is. The game has so many great things but people only care about KD. And theyre the same people that cried about the double primary teamshot meta. Yet still hold hands and teamshot. They just dont like when other people do it.

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