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Edited by Luigigod: 11/6/2019 8:47:02 PM
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POLL: Are you happy with the current state of The Crucible?

Yes

487

No

1036

No opinion

181

Have a reason(s) why you like / don't like it? Comment about it, you can't help improve the game by doing nothing. Edit: Over 1000 votes, nice!

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  • Voted no opinion. Honestly the competitive mode is great. But the rest is still a shit show. Fusion rifle meta needs to go. Easy fix no more spawning with special ammo. JUST LIKE D1. put ammo boxes for special in random spots similar to how heavy works. In comp have a more limited spawn for them and display to all players (just like heavy) Then to satisfy the people this upsets.... return universal remote (shotgun the used primary) and ice breaker and the other shotgun that had backpack (name is escaping me) for those that don't know backpack gave your weapon a limited ammo but it slowly regenerated. So 1 clip only but it just magically refilled over time.

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    • Yes and no. Yes: Love the new set up being able to pick control or freelance competitive. No: The non-stop, pervasive lag. I'd rather get curb stomped 100 games in a row by sweats on a good connection than get bagged by a guy blinking all over the screen or killing me with a super whose animation hasn't even appeared on my screen yet (amongst many other ludicrous examples). PS I'm on a fibre optic network.

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    • Yes and no. Yes: - The game doesn't feel like Mayhem Lite anymore after the super changes. - Comp is the best it's ever been, although some might say it's too easy now. - Balance is fairly okay aside from a few outliers. (TLW, Recluse, Mountaintop, OEM.) No: - Only one CBMM mode means that every match is a sweatfest if you're halfway decent (all the good players who are sick of playing SBMM funnel into Classic Mix, where they just match each other and the games continue to be sweaty.)* - Artefact Mods affecting PvP, which they really shouldn't. - Those outlier items I mentioned earlier, but mainly Recluse and OEM. * [spoiler]Thought I'd elaborate more on this point. If you're above a certain level, SBMM means every match is a sweatfest with long queue times and poor connections. Since this isn't an enjoyable experience, the only CBMM option, Classic Mix, is filled with the good players who don't want to put up with SBMM bullshit 24/7, which just turns it into a sweatfest as well. [i]"You're just saying that because you don't want to match good players!"[/i] Wrong. I like matching good players [i]sometimes[/i]. Like I said, Comp was really fun this season, but when every match you play turns into the Quickplay Grand Finals, you start to get a little sick of it. More playlists need to be CBMM to help disperse players of different skill levels out instead of funnelling all the sweatlords into one playlist. Personally I think the only SBMM 6v6 playlist should be Iron Banner.[/spoiler]

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      • Negative- not a fan of either getting put into an ongoing match on the losing team or put against gods in a group of 4 of more basically every match.

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      • I think there are a few changes needed to some weapons and subclasses, but overall the gameplay is the best it’s been in Destiny’s Crucible history imo. My big issue is matchmaking felt great on Shadowkeep’s release until after 3v3 got a matchmaking update. Since then, the 6v6 playlists have felt pretty sweaty imo, even though they didn’t get adjusted.

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      • One hit weapons. And general feeling that dying is so much faster now. D2S1 was all about teamshooting, that's true. But thing is, you always had time to react. Power ammo was for snipers, GLs, Shotguns. It was a means of getting that weapon that will instantly one-shot somebody, so it was obvious people would fight over it. Nowadays you have snipers, Mindbender's Ambition and Mountaintop available at the ready. I've been in countless situations where a guy jumps in the air with the sniper, he gets 3 shots from my pulse what causes him flinching, yet I immediately get 1-hit-KO'd crit'd out before I manage to shoot again. How do you counterplay instadeath rofl? I remember being able to take a few hits and run to cover and then try to outmanouver my enemy. Nowadays everyone use snipers/GLs or Shotgun (probably the least annoying one) to one shot you anyway, without need of Power Ammo. This is the greatest killjoy ever, to not be able to do ANYTHING if caught unfortunately.

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      • negative vote - They still have crucible???? #removecrucible and let this game finally get to be the great space fantasy it was meant to be.

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        • No. It needs D1Y3 ammo economy. Pulses need a range nerf. Need bigger maps with less clutter. SBMM needs some work still. No 4+ stacks against solos.

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        • Premades of KD farmers wearing OEM teamshooting me in the majority of crucible matches. No, I am not content with the current state of PvP.

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        • I do not like the current state of the crucible, especially the competitive playlist. I have been trying to get to fabled rank so I can get the Recluse for two weeks now and the sheer number of cheaters/hackers is deplorable. Every second game has at least one person cheating and its infuriating that Bungie seems to be doing absolutely nothing about it. I've seen unlimited ammo, wall hacking, teleportation, god mode, instant re-spawning, re-spawning with no lives left, instant kill weapons and the one that I've seen the most is aimbotting. People just running around with snipers sliding or jumping everywhere and insta-headshotting people no matter what. Bungie made a huge mistake making D2 free to play, because hackers are rampant now.

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        • Crucible has never felt as fun as it did during HoW/TTK in D1, imo. Trials is gone. A lot of weapon archetypes just don't feel as crisp as they should. Some guns like Breakneck and Redrix were nerfed WAY too hard. Worthwhile Crucible rewards are too few and far in between for the amount of grinding you have to do.

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          • No opinion. Haven’t played enough to form a solid opinion.

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          • Edited by Swag: 11/6/2019 11:17:15 PM
            I love PVP, But my god... for 6v6 game modes like Control, there are so many problems at the moment that it's hard to know where to start. The major things which stick out are awful map design and spawning issues, cheese builds left right and centre, and roaming supers. Last night in IB, I pretty much got caught in a chain of getting immediately killed on spawn, for about 4 spawns, by super after super or the enemy team collapsing on me. There was literally nothing I could do to counter it. Grenade launchers in primary and secondary slots, and weapons like Jötunn feel really cheesy too. It's just bizarre that stuff is even a thing. I've loved 6v6 game modes since back in D1 days, but the way things are now, I'm feeling I'm going to need to avoid them and stick to stuff like Rumble and Survival.

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          • Crucible got worse with Shadowkeeps release imo. The connection is worse than its ever been before (possibly due to a large amount of F2P players now) the game quality itself has gone down with the release of artifact mods that ABSOLUTELY break PvP (Thundercoil and Arc Battery) and its devolved into a shitshow of which team has the most amount of busted exotics, mods, weapons etc. I've also found that as a player who has started reaching into the higher tiers of PvP, skill based matchmaking has ruined the casual crucible experience, i'm almost forced to play sweaty loadouts to even achieve anything in game and it's incredibly frustrating to say the least. Classic mix is an absolute garbage playlist right now, laggy games against 6 stacks of Unbrokens farming stats, the amount of games i have played in classic where all ive been able to do all game is tickle people because my bullets take 50 years to register, or THEY DONT REGISTER AT ALL, is more than 0 and frankly, thats too much. SO i'm really dissatisfied with Crucible for the most part. I can have fun in Comp more now however due to the 3v3 and the fact that I KNOW what i've put myself into and I KNOW i need to do my best. Currently the Comp ladder is where i have had the most fun games, and is the only gamemode i think is actually worth playing right now.

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          • MM is some how worse.

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          • We need walls that actually work, and for the love of god nerf the range on that fusion rifle. Oh, how could I forget... P2P IS A F&CKING DINOSAUR!

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          • Crucible is a complete train wreck... so bloody frustrating 🤬

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          • It's terrible. Skill based matchmaking should only be active in Comp not every game mode. They say it's not in Classic Mix but I see a tonnn of stacked Unbroken teams vs casual players. Fusion rifles rival the range of scouts sometimes, the handcannon range nerf directly put us into a boring slow scout meta, the amount of OHK weapons in the game is getting ridiculous. There's a ton wrong with it.

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            • No...let's see..... 1. Abysmal matchmaking even after promised fixes that never happened 2. Artifact mods 3. Spawn killing 4. Terrible maps

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            • Crucible has never been bad. Not even during times like lens bug. Now it is better than ever. It is just a matter of attitude and most people don’t have much of that.

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              • SBMM should be removed, Recluse, Shotguns, Dad Rifles, OEM and Fusions should be nerfed, and I can't imagine how it feels to play on PC when Last Word and Mountaintop exists lol, only advantage Console has over PC.

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                • I voted no, but did so with the understanding that Destiny will never be "my pvp game". I prefer realistic, more tactical combat. Bungie prefers 8 year olds with jetpacks and shotguns. I prefer games where death matters and the goal is to stay alive because it encourages teamwork and strategic thinking. Bungie likes their games to be more focused on kamikaze tactics because it's faster paced and makes for better youtuber/streamer footage. So, as I mentioned, I don't like Destiny's pvp. That does not mean I think it's bad, it's just not my cup of tea and I've accepted that. This said, however, I do wish Bungie would stop nerfing our guardians/gear for the sake of pvp.

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                • we dont need one hit abilitys. you can see it clearly in ironbanner, one hit abilities dominate the pvp

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                • I like it, but I know my PVP-centric friends specifically really don't like it. Don't forget to set report bias for those who avoid crucible talk in the forums - surely... uh.. [i]thousands[/i] of votes. I don't want crucible to change drastically but that's unrelated to my estimate.

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                • Remove sbmm and never even think about implementing it to this franchise ever again.

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                  • Edited by The 7th fall: 11/6/2019 8:44:03 PM
                    Crucible is garbage. -Scrap SBMM in 6vs6 -Seasonal artifacts should NOT affect Crucible -f*** 1 hit kill Thunder Coil and Oppressive Darkness buffs- -OEM exotic needs to be balanced -Striker "Trample" skill needs to be reduced just for PvP if it can be separated from PvE -High impact fusion rifles need increased charge time to make up for the fact that they can seemigly cross map kill and do such ludicrous amounts of damage -Getting spawn killed from scout rifles, pulse rifles, snipers, and roaming supers happens one too may times And this list could go on for ages...

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