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Edited by Grays_KS27:
10/14/2019 8:21:04 PM
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Cool. I disagree though, slightly. The Darkness and its agents have told us many many times that its goal is to kill everything. Several times the Darkness has told us that it is going to kill everything, and that by killing everything it will “end all suffering.” It tells us “those who do not exist cannot suffer”
When the Darkness says it’s our “salvation,” it is literally telling us “I’ll save you from suffering by killing you. Yay!”
We know less about the Traveler’s motives, but the Darkness speaking of the Traveler, some things the Worm Gods day about the Traveler, and the Traveler’s actions suggest that it’s simply the opposite of the Darkness, wanting to stop death.
So both sides are opposites (seriously guys, Ulan-Tan was always right), and I think neither side is right.
So…I’m siding with the Vex.
#Convergence
#VexMilk
#Dubstep
#GetRektCrota
#F**kLinearTime
#YouWantYourArmBackAsherComeGetItLmao
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Omfg Asher needs to sack up and get his are I LOVE IT LMAO
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I’m glad you thought it was funny, I was laughing too!
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Edited by DarknessImperia: 10/14/2019 9:39:48 PMI see what you’re saying! The way I see “Salvation” is they are ending the suffering of a life without the ability to prefer. They are ending the unnatural existences, thereby putting an end to the endless suffering. They they are trying to kill those aided by the Traveler, but only because the Traveler made their existence unnatural. Humanity shouldn’t have been able to advance so fast, even mortal non-guardians live lives far beyond what should be natural for the time. Yes they are reaping and killing, but only to restore the Balance that the Traveler is constantly tipping. The Darkness would’ve never came to destroy humanity if the Traveler never would have interfered. And the Vex are dubstep AF. Lol I love your point of view though! The point of all this is to think and challenge right? Love it!
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[quote]only to restore the Balance that the Traveler is constantly tipping. The Darkness would’ve never came to destroy humanity if the Traveler never would have interfered.[/quote] Very true (that is, if the Darkness wasn’t lying in its message), very true! I think that when the Traveler tipped the balance by breaking its roll and going to spread life, the Darkness came after it and naturally began to spread death. So, like, it’s not trying to correct what the Traveler is doing, but it’s trying to do the opposite. The Darkness and its agents have slaughtered many species that the Traveler never came to (RIP Taishibethi). So the Darkness came after the Traveler because the Traveler broke the system, but in the end it’s just trying to spread death, not create an equilibrium of life and death. And now there’s no going back for either side. I think we might be getting on to something here!
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Oh I got you! So basically Creation vs. Destruction. Both are moving in the extremes right? I don’t think either is inherently good or evil. They simply do what they do. The Gardener and the Winnower right? One thing I do want to add is the Darkness was basically talking about what the only things that are allowed to exist are what need to exist. They speak of survival of the fittest. If you cannot survive on your own, if your species cannot prosper independently or with very little aid, then they shouldn’t live. They are a failures, they couldn’t live without help. Again the Winnower. The Darkness separates the prosperous from the failures. They let the strong live, and the cull the rest, and they openly admit it. But like you said, a lot of this is assuming that the Darkness is being truthful.
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Edited by Grays_KS27: 10/14/2019 10:41:42 PMThat’s exactly what I mean! And I think the Darkness is being truthful. The problem with the Darkness is this: The Darkness just keeps going until nothing (or one thing) is left. Let the strong live, cull the rest. Survival of the fittest. But the Darkness keeps the killing going. The strong kill the weak, the stronger kill the strong, and it keeps going until only the strongest is left. Ideally, Oryx would have killed everything, and then he himself would have been all that was left. And then he would die, consumed by his worm, and nothing would remain. It makes me wonder what would happen if the Darkness was removed and the Traveler was left to continue its work. Would it create some horrible universe, the opposite of the Darkness’ end game but somehow just as bad? Like what the Darkness described, eternal suffering with no death.
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I would agree in the belief that the Darkness tells the truth. I do remember some lore from Joker’s Wild where the Drifter was shown Visions of a World without Darkness, and a World without Light. Both were equally terrible. The world without light was essentially constant death and probably eventually absence of life (other than possibly one, like you said). The world without Darkness was a world of a terrible burning blindness, constant life and never being able to die, unable to end the constant suffering and pain. No choice, no memory, just constant blindness. Again both equally terrible. The way I see it, at one point one of the two major Energy Consciousnesses (Light and Dark) tipped the balance too far in one direction. The Darkness says it was the Light that tipped. Hating the thought of anything dying, it would have created or given the gift of immortality. It would foster too much growth too fast, and these now strong beings on the outside would have become blind and become weakened on the inside unable to survive on their own. This being the catalyst for the everlasting power struggle, both sides doing too much to equal the other. Both never being able to truly be at balance. That is until they figure it out. But where do they stop? Will the Traveler just stop what it is doing because it is tipping the scales? Probably not. Will the Darkness stop overcompensating on the death toll with the Traveler still doing what it is doing? Definitely not. At this point, both sides are doing things that are out of order. One purposefully, and the other to compensate. But what will get looked at with a hateful and fearful glare? Which side will be cast away as some evil thing? The Darkness. The living naturally prefer life. And a being that brings death would be seen as the ultimate evil in their eyes. That is until they lose the choice to prefer. Then the Light doesn’t seem so good, and the Dark doesn’t seem so evil.
