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10/9/2019 4:11:50 PM
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I've lived in China, Shanghai infact, for a year to study Mandarin. And while I truly love Chinese culture, history, it's food, and especially it's people, the CCP scares me. It is, whether we see it or not, the greatest threat to basic human rights and informed democracy, that the West has ever faced. No other political entity in recent history, N@zi Germany or Soviet Russia, were as entwined in our economy and politics as China has become. They were always existential, far away threats we could simply resist. But China is a different story, their money and influence has seeped into every facet of our society, and while the influence of Chinese culture is far from evil, the CCP is. It is a cancer to culture, especially it's own. And it is the money and influence of that political entity that is infecting the rest of the world.
Our Outlook is grim.
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No wonder republicans want us to cut ties with China...
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Are you sure you weren't already set on a preconceived idea on what the Chinese government is like as portrayed by Western media? I've lived there too and I've never even once felt threatened or felt oppressed by the government. In its own way, China has its own type of democracy. The people are happy with the way things are going with the country.
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[quote]Are you sure you weren't already set on a preconceived idea on what the Chinese government is like as portrayed by Western media? I've lived there too and I've never even once felt threatened or felt oppressed by the government. In its own way, China has its own type of democracy. The people are happy with the way things are going with the country.[/quote] The majority of teens-young adults don't even know what happened in Tiananmen Square because that's censored....
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Depends which country they are from. In China a lot of people already know. If you think a censorship can stop people accessing information then you'd be very wrong.
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Well here's what happened when they asked college students about it. Most would either just run away or never heard of it. https://youtu.be/W-cm1WbV0UU
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American news channel. Of course it would be biased. I would of preferred if they didn't dub over with an interpreter. It's kind of fishy when they dub out what was actually said rather than use subtitles.
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Those accents don't sound American to me..... Still, why would so many be afraid to talk about it? 🤔
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I didn't mean the locals or reporters, I meant the news channel itself. People don't want to talk about it because it's a highly contraversial subject, plus they don't know who the interviewer is who is randomly asking people questions on the street, it doesn't happen in China. It might seem normal to you being accosted on the street by survey people or charity workers but these things don't happen in China.
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Have you researched Xinjiang at all? I agree that it's good for foreigners and any Chinese that don't have a reason to go against the system, or don't bother doing so. But the potential for oppression is limitless, and many are oppressed that we never see, and that the majority of Chinese never see. Very few Germans knew about the attrocities being committed during world war II. You should also look up Tiananmen mother's. They are an active group of mother's seeking official recognition by the government that anyone even died during the 90s Massacre. And one could say that's all old news, which would be true, except for the fact the government still heavily monitors these people, puts a tail on them when they try to leave their home city, and won't let them anywhere near Tiananmen on the anniversary. China is a place of breath taking progress and breakneck innovation. Just sitting on a terrace on The Bund in Shanghai, watching as the city lights up with the coming of night, I felt like I was at the center of the world. As if there, the center and future of human progress was somehow tangible and incarnate. But there is a veil there as well, a darkness many of us never see. Granted, the West always harps on what China does wrong, and never what it does well. But that doesn't negate the bad. The West, for better or worse, let's the world see it's dirty underwear hung out to dry. China keeps it's locked away, where it festers behind a facade of modernity and progress.
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Then maybe you should research about these "oppression" of Muslims. The so called "concentration camps" are modern educational facilities setup by the Chinese government to "re-educate" the locals.. yes.. to educate them in skills, literacy and other life skills. There's been reporters who went in to see for themselves these Muslim minorities and how they were supposedly treated and when asked about the so called concentration camps they seem confused and went on to tell the reporters that the Chinese government only uplifted the area. Not only that, the video about how they were supposedly mistreated the locals laughed and seemed utterly bemused by it saying they've never heard of such a thing.
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China is scary
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Yes and no. If you are a foreigner living there, or a middle class Chinese who lives by the rules (which is about 200million people), life isn't bad at all. Better than the US in some ways. But the thing that makes China so scary is the potential for abuse of it's power, and the abuses they are actively committing in places like Xinjiang. It's n@zi level Holocaust shit happening there to the Muslim population, but we don't hear about it. Why? Because the media is in the CCP's pocket.
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That's actually a false story being peddled by the US.
