If you think that of the forums, why come on? Yes there are some, let's call them "stubborn" people on the forums who just don't listen. Theres also some that will and are happy to have healthy debate and change their opinion. Not everyone who comes on here is, as you say "an idiot". Claiming this after trying to force your opinion, given as incorrect fact, down someone's throat just makes you out to be like the people you moaned about. If you don't agree then you don't agree. No need to become like those "stubborn" people and be rude.