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9/17/2019 11:10:20 PM
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yea sure, i see what you mean in that context. warlocks are supposed to have more recovery, titans had more resilience, while hunters had more mobility at the beginning of d2 . you seem to forget that theirs PVP that plays into this is why that cant expand on those things to heavy. PVE they should be able to expand more but i understand the limitations. You cleary know theirs a different feel for each class as to why some see certain play over other in certain activities.
Dont blame bungie for the challenge aspect, look at your fellow guardians and honestly i think we're the reason they cant personalize the classes more because we complain about EVERYTHING revolving around any hard work.
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I didnt forget anything. If PVP is their excuse then they are massively incompetent. The first class based Shooter was Team Fortress, you then have Overwatch and a whole host of Class based shooters where the classes have defined play. Having a class be defined by a marginal stat difference is another awful excuse. One, most classes will have similar stats due to the way armor is implemented and based on how the stats other than recovery do anything useful. You seem to think making excuses is a valid form of argument, it isnt. Pvp is an excuse because Bungie never defined how Pvp is supposed to feel in this game. Is it supposed to be battlefield with mystic super soldiers? Bungie doesmt know because all they seem to focus on is TTK. Also, every other game that has an RPG element and Pvp has learned that you cannot have a unified gaming experience. PvE cannot maintain interest when bound to PvP. Why? Because a game optimized for Pvp over PvE leads to an extremely boring game. It also causes problems because how do you make PvE more engaging when everything is held back by PvP balance? You can't. Again Bungie has no vision. You can deflect all you want but the proof is that in 3 years this game has had more game play revisions than any MMO I have played.
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Well that's the problem .. tell me any of those are game that have bother pve on the same scale as destiny and has pvp on the scale as destiny you can't find one. All the ones you've named only focus on PVP. I'm not deflecting anything, I'm just looking at this from perspective, because as much as we want it having class based PVP sounds broken ass hell.How would a max health titan be affected by a health regenerating warlock with guns thrown in the mixture that need there own balancing. We scream and shout yet we want ttk to be .4 seconds but how would the player base feel that you can't touch and Hunter because the mobility will be out this world and a titen surviving 2 rockets because he has max health? How well do you think the player base will take to that. When will you point at the players as the ones that don't know what we want?. It's been said time and time again what's they want destiny to play like yet we need to accommodate for dads that can only play 2 hours a week .. when no other game does that. Bungie has a vision we just don't want to accept it or don't like it.
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One, Destiny 2 primary focus should be its PvE, as majority of its players play PvE than PvP. Two, if you want to conti ue the excuse train, no RPG with PvE and PvP such as WoW has ever had a unified system. Destiny is the only one to buck this trend and look how bad the gameplay is. Its the only game to have raids where players who are the appropriate level are one phasing raid bosses. Three, they will never strike a balance because if MMO RPGs have to seperate the two systems how do you think Bungie is going to achieve it? 5 years and they haven't. In fact, as you are demonstrating with your posts you expect the majority gamer group to concede game play to the minirity gaming group as Pvp balancing is dictating PvE balancing which is making the game boring beyond belief. Finally, are you going to just make excuses for this game because you are a fanboy? I mean, if you arent paid to defend this game then its rather sad you would do so for free. You are basically saying that bungie cant make an immersive game because it has PvP, which is a lie, they cant have unified experience because PvPers tend to want Supers nerfed into the ground, as with class abilities. If you pay attention to Datto's fanbase they are very clear that they think Supers and class abilities should be removed from the game entirely.
