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8/23/2019 9:44:14 AM
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Bottom Tree Nova Bomb Needs A Serious Buff:

Probably the worst PvP Warlock super in the game bar Chaos Reach. It's super easy to dodge and has no range. People only use that tree for Devour which is basically just an inferior version of Divine Protection anyway. Give it Lance back and Proxy Det. and people might actually start using that tree again.

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  • Bring Shatter back!!!!! They took it from Warlocks, gave it to hunters, and renamed it Blade Barrage. Bottome tree is terrible. Too slow, has the range of a shotgun, and blast size sucks. I never use it.

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    • Wouldn't call devour inferior to Divine Protection. Divine Protection might give an overshield, it even with Benevolent Dawn, you can only use it every now and again. Devour kicks in on grenade consumption and then again on EVERY kill (which gives grenade cooldown to boot). One "use" of devour can heal you countless times. One use of Divine Protection... Is one heal, but can be spread to all your allies (if only they'd not run right by it..)

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    • Chaos Reach is better. It’s a delete button with infinite range. Bottom tree nova has a good neutral game (especially with Karnatein Armlets, Eye of Another World, or the Hive helmet) but the super just doesn’t hit hard enough. [spoiler]Sorry, all out of salt.[/spoiler]

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        I remember doing some tests around a little after Forsaken's release. Pre-nerf Nova Warp's blast radius was a little less than double bottom/Devour Nova Bomb's blast radius. Except its damage dropff was borderline non-existent by comparison, and both ohk'd some Supers.

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      • And they need to un-nerf devour, it no longer gives back full health in PvP.( and this has been a thing since jokers wild time frame)

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        • >worst PvP warlock super that's a weird way to say "worst super in general" You slap a big ol' bomb down and then it's basically a charged vortex grenade. Shatter Bomb is basically better by default. [i]pretty sure nobody uses attunement of Hunger for the super[/i]

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          • Maybe the supper isn't quite as good but the devour makes up for that

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          • what's divine protection?

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            • I want the 3 way split nova bomb back

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              • Not sure why people like proximity detonation on things. Kills part of the fun imo. I'd be absolutely good with lance and a boost to damage on direct hit

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              • Funny how no one has been saying anything about this super until mtash made a video about it and now people are complaining almost even used the same words he did to complain about it

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              • I agree. I've been using it alot lately and it's just So Bad. Blade Barrage has a massive amount of damage resistance, the blades track and go everywhere and it's incredibly fast. I think Bungie needs to take a page from this and give Vortex a faster animation, more damage resistance, Lance, longer AoE time and an increase to the AoE's damage. There should be no reason why Vortex is so shitty that a player can take two steps to the side and avoid the initial detonation.

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                • Devour is good man. Always has been. The super is the part that needs buffing.

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                • Both of these supers feel extremely well balanced right now.

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                • Chaos reach is good to shutdown some supers. Though it is a shame that you can’t see anything while using it.

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                  • I was so sad when lance didn’t make it back into D2. I only used lance.

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                  • It deff needs lance back. It would be perfect then

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                  • Devour = trash mob Up nova tree = DPS Nova wrap = need rework for PvE thank to cry baby

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                  • Was using bottom tree just for devour. Had my super charged and i heard a fist of havoc activate somewhere on the map. I waited for him to come around the corner, turned my camera at the ground and fired my nova bomb. It shot right past him. Next game came across a warlock running bottom tree. Shot him, he panicked and threw nova bomb point blank and it flew right past me.

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                  • Needs more AoE. I wouldn't mind if it got reworked to shatter, but I'm assuming Bungie wants one of the trees to keep the classic Nova Bomb style.

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                    • I wouldn't say devour is objectively worse than divine protection, as devour has its moments, but yeah. The Nova bomb itself feels like an incendiary grenade.

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                    • It should be that the longer you hold the super button, the explosion becomes larger and deals more damage

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                      • Edited by Ghostfire239: 8/23/2019 8:01:43 PM
                        The main issue is the super. The neutral is pretty top tier if you’re an aggressive player. I dropped 55 kills one game with Devour and Chaperone. I don’t even play Warlock all that well so I can only imagine how good actual Warlock mains can be, since they know how to maximize their subclass usage

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                        • Edited by Smough: 8/24/2019 10:12:51 PM
                          Doesn’t bottom tree have devour? Does it really need a buff?

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                          • Although I would luv to see Lance return, once Bungo choose to water down subclass trees; Lance was essentially replaced with “Slova”. As far as proxy det., that’s more likely to come back, as I think it plays well with Nova, seeing as direct hits aren’t really its thing in Crucible.

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