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Edited by Wes:
6/22/2019 4:03:32 PM
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So, the console PvP meta is unchanged...
(Before anyone complains, I am calling for zero nerfs.)
Well, Truth is occasionally used instead of Wardcliff, but that's it. The meta is unchanged.
Why? Because while the main offenders, Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten, were nerfed, other weapons were untouched. These two guns were such large outliers in terms of both ease of use and TTK, that they are still dominant over other hand cannons even after this nerf. They have the fastest consistent TTK of handcannons at 0.8 seconds and the ease of use of a 180 precision frame. (Yes, other hand cannons with specific perks active can kill faster, but I'm not accounting for those. NF and LH have this TTK with or without MH active.)
Other hand cannons offer no ease of use. Ace of Spades has virtually no use on console compared to PC. Why? Because it has the 140 frame and recoil, as well as requiring three crits to kill.
If 150s are to have the fastest TTK of handcannons, fine. Make them require 3 crits, but a 140 needs to be in a 2 crit 1 body shot kill zone and console, controller recoil needs to be addressed.
A lot of people could also argue that the 180/precision frame of handcannons is just too easy to use. That is 100% true, but I would like to see the other archetypes buffed before this one is nerfed.
We need a REAL sandbox update. I want a Solar Week (like Arc Week) and several buffs to say normal rocket launchers, scouts, and maybe autos in terms of forgiveness. They require constant line of sight, so I think making them require virtually all crits is a little much considering they have to compete with HCs.
Also, remove or significantly reduce flinch.
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13 RepliesEdited by Mostpeacefully: 6/23/2019 2:08:33 PMIt's simply not true what you say. They killed it. It is still good but not because the reasons you pretend they are just not affected by bloom and if you would Look at the current Meta closely you would see that tlw is dominating now because it has no ttk contender in any Form now anymore. The Crucible now is an absolut bs. Everyone Camping with bygones or prime the rest Plays fusions or sit in spawn with snipers. The not forgotten and Lunas howl were never a Problem you can see it if you Look at the PC Meta it never was any Problem there. The only Thing that happen now are People realizing they still suck even the gun is gone that's all. And to be honest Nf is bullshit it still has the Range of the 180 RPM type and it's perk is more or less useless. Comp is an empty black hole now. No one Plays it anymore.. Teamshot is a greater Problem than before. This complete Meta is shit they should remove the nerf asap.
