Do you support the Straight Pride Parade?

If they had one sure I would (I’m straight after all). Although I’m not sure why we would need one.

It's real. It's to prove a point- it's just as okay to be straight as it is to be gay. What's kind of hilarious is that there are people who get triggered by the straight pride parade as bad as those who get triggered by gay pride month.

[quote]What's kind of hilarious is that there are people who get triggered by the straight pride parade as bad as those who get triggered by gay pride month.[/quote] I mean you say that and yet that thread talking about it is basically a ghost town while this one is 400+ comments of salt. The crazy right are far more prevalent here in Offtopic than the crazy left.

And there you go labeling both sides as crazy.

[quote]It's to prove a point- it's just as okay to be straight as it is to be gay.[/quote] Who said it’s not ok to be straight? Gay pride comes from the right to exist free from oppression. As straight people we should be thankful we don’t [i]need[/i] a straight pride month. [quote]What's kind of hilarious is that there are people who get triggered by the straight pride parade as bad as those who get triggered by gay pride month.[/quote] Probably because the straight pride rally you’re talking about isn’t about straight acceptance (because we don’t need it). It’s organised by the alt-right as a backlash against gay pride. But hell if a bunch of rednecks want to get together, whine about gay people and pretend they’re oppressed they are free to do so.

People of color are rednecks? Interesting...

[quote]It’s organised by the alt-right as a backlash against gay pride. But hell if a bunch of rednecks want to get together, whine about gay people and pretend they’re oppressed they are free to do so.[/quote] tHe RiGhT dEmOnIzEs GaYs BaSeD oN iNaCcUrAtE sTeReOtYpEs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Sometimes the stereotypes are true: https://thinkprogress.org/organizers-behind-boston-straight-pride-parade-neo-n[i]a[/i]zis-far-right-a3dc225cc7f0/amp/ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/straight-pride-parade-boston-far-right-mark-sahady-john-hugo-chris-bartley-a8950836.html?amp

I can't agree more on stereotypes. They wouldn't exist if they didn't have a shred of truth in them. I'm fine with you saying that the alt right are bunch of rednecks, but you can't just pick and choose stereotypes. Either they are all true and it's fair game or they all aren't and it's not fair game

[quote]I can't agree more on stereotypes. They wouldn't exist if they didn't have a shred of truth in them. [/quote] So you think Jews are greedy and control the world??

Firstly I never said anything about stereotypes. “The right demonize gays with inaccurate stereotypes” is a straw man argument you seem to be claiming that I made. I’ve never said anything remotely like that. Secondly why does it have to be all or nothing? Can’t some stereotypes be true and some not? Context matters - is the stereotype used in a joking or friendly way? Is it used fairly or unfairly? Or is it used as an excuse for hate and bigotry? In my case I admit I was probably being a little unfair to say that everyone that supports this rally is a redneck - but we are talking about a rally organised by far right activists whose intentions are not pure. So in this case I don’t particularly care if I hurt their feelings.

[quote]Firstly I never said anything about stereotypes.[/quote] You used a stereotype here: "It’s organised by the alt-right as a backlash against gay pride. But hell if a bunch of rednecks want to get together, whine about gay people and pretend they’re oppressed they are free to do so." You stereotyped the alt-right by calling them a bunch of rednecks. Not personally mad about it since that's within your right and I'm not a part of that group (for the record, I wouldn't react differently if I was except in trying to show you how I am not a part of that stereotype) [quote]“The right demonize gays with inaccurate stereotypes” is a straw man argument you seem to be claiming that I made.[/quote] I didn't claim you did, I was mocking liberals who say such things and I assumed that you fell into that group, so I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in the party. [quote]I’ve never said anything remotely like that.[/quote] Yes [quote]Secondly why does it have to be all or nothing?[/quote] Because that's how truth works. You can't have personal truths, it's either true or it's false. Saying something is "true for me" is a weak argument and is code for "I couldn't think of anything to rebut what you just said, so I'll hide behind this notion of personal truths that doesn't really work so as not to lose all credibility." If you have personal truths, fundamental truths fall apart. You can't just say the sky isn't blue for me. [quote]Can’t some stereotypes be true and some not?[/quote] No, because if they weren't true, they wouldn't be stereotypes. Again, every stereotype has a shred of truth in it. A non zero amount of the alt-right are rednecks. I'm not denying that. There stereotype wouldn't exist if it wasn't somewhat truthful. We stereotype because we don't want to account for every possible person. Everyone who uses stereotypes operates under the assumption that "I'm sure there are people who break this mold, but I shall use the stereotype because it is easier." And if you don't think there are people who break the stereotype, you're using it wrong. [quote]Context matters - is the stereotype used in a joking or friendly way?[/quote] Yes, context matters. Were you using it jokingly. Judging that you didn't pick up on my obvious mockery and started saying I committed a logical fallacy, I'd think not. [quote]Is it used fairly or unfairly?[/quote] You know the answer to this. In truth, all stereotypes are used a little unfairly to the person who does not fall under it, but it's how you use the stereotype that determines whether you're being unfair or not. [quote]Or is it used as an excuse for hate and bigotry?[/quote] I applaud you on your recognition of context mattering [quote[In my case I admit I was probably being a little unfair to say that everyone that supports this rally is a redneck[/quote] Good job, you recognized your mistake, that takes alot of guts to do here [quote]- but we are talking about a rally organised by far right activists whose intentions are not pure. So in this case I don’t particularly care if I hurt their feelings.[/quote] You were doing so well... well, I don't particularly care for the feelings of those who oppose my point of view on this thread either lol I'm such a cool person, I don't care about someone's feelings on the internet haha epic victory royale time

Look I don’t even think what I said [i]was[/i] stereotyping. Who am I stereotyping exactly? If I had said everyone on the right is a redneck that would be a stereotype. But I didn’t say that (nor did I imply it). I was saying that everyone who attends this rally is a redneck - which is probably mostly true. I guarantee you anyone who attends this rally will be doing so as a sign of opposition to the LGBT movement. They will most likely be closely affiliated with the far right or with white nationalist movements. So I think it’s probably pretty accurate to say that most the people who attend will be rednecks (by which I mean people bigoted against gay people). [quote]You were doing so well... well, I don't particularly care for the feelings of those who oppose my point of view on this thread either lol I'm such a cool person, I don't care about someone's feelings on the internet haha epic victory royale time. [/quote] Not sure what you’re trying to say here? I was saying I don’t care about the feelings of white nationalists and the far right. Not people in this thread. Why should I care about the feeling of racists and homophobes? Pretty sure they don’t care about my feelings.

[quote]Look I don’t even think what I said [i]was[/i] stereotyping. Who am I stereotyping exactly?[/quote] The alt-right [quote]If I had said everyone on the right is a redneck that would be a stereotype.[/quote] You said that you had no problem with a bunch of rednecks having a parade. Before that you said the parade was being assembled by the alt-right, therefore, you at least stereotyped those people who may not have been alt-right meaning you mischaracterized them. Again, that's fine if you stereotyped them, but you must acknowledge that other stereotypes have some truth in them, not just the ones that fit your narrative. [quote]But I didn’t say that (nor did I imply it).[/quote] You at the very least implied it and I'm more leaning towards you actually stereotyping. [quote]I was saying that everyone who attends this rally is a redneck - which is probably mostly true.[/quote] Stereotype: "a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing." I don't know how you go from "i didn't stereotype anyone, I didn't even imply it" to "everyone is a redneck who attends this rally" which means you stereotyped everyone who wants to attend this rally. Excellent logical jumps from our boi over here [quote][I guarantee you anyone who attends this rally will be doing so as a sign of opposition to the LGBT movement.[/quote] Incorrect. These people are probably motivated because they think it's stupid that these people get a month of celebration over doing the bare minimum for self-development. But who I am I to say what they are motivated by because I am not them and neither are you. [quote]They will most likely be closely affiliated with the far right or with white nationalist movements.[/quote] I'm against this whole pride month stuff and I am a traditional conservative, I'm actually pretty close to center. [quote]So I think it’s probably pretty accurate to say that most the people who attend will be rednecks (by which I mean people bigoted against gay people).[/quote] You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a redneck is just like most of your party. Rednecks isn't a name that means someone who hates gays. It more falls in line with people who live in the rural south. Sure, some rednecks do hate gay people, however, that's not their defining trait. When I think of rednecks, I don't think of a bunch of people hating gays. I think of tractors, farms, people on their ranch house porches drinking beer. Very stereotypical of me I know, but there is a shred of truth [quote]Not sure what you’re trying to say here?[/quote] I'm mocking your party for saying gays are unfairly stereotyped while you sit there stereotyping the alt-right and people who want to attend this rally [quote]I was saying I don’t care about the feelings of white nationalists and the far right. Not people in this thread.[/quote] First off, that's within your right. This also means I shouldn't have to care about the feelings of gay people because they probably do not care about my feelings because of I'm the devil to them (I am straight, white, male, Christian and Conservative). People here have been calling others homophobic. Heck, Museic called Lee the Sheriff a bigot. Lee the freaking Sheriff. The harmless art guy who is a really nice person here and probably in real life, is a bigot now? What has the world come to? [quote]Why should I care about the feeling of racists and homophobes?[/quote] Because about 50% of the population are apparently racists and homophobes according to your party. [quote]Pretty sure they don’t care about my feelings.[/quote] You're probably right, however, two wrongs never made a right (get it) and you will garner nothing but respect for caring about their feelings. But why be better people when we could just not amiright?

Right of center is the new alt-right.

Basically

Recently Philip DeFranco... the guy with the YouTube news channel has been labeled alt-right by the New York Times. Philip DeFranco is as middle-of-the-road as you can get!

That's crazy, I have watched Philip's content and he is not alt-right in the slightest. You're alt-right if you disagree with them I guess. It's gotten to the point where I don't care if I'm alt-right or not, sort of like how when people call me a racist, I don't care. If you're not called being alt-right or a racist, you're probably doing something wrong lmao

I have three gay friends who have all been called alt-right just for disagreeing with some leftist agenda. One's a democrat, just not left enough I guess. The other two are independent and one of these guys are black. So anybody right of Saul Alinsky is alt-right these days.

[quote]I have three gay friends who have all been called alt-right just for disagreeing with some leftist agenda. One's a democrat, just not left enough I guess. The other two are independent and one of these guys are black. So anybody right of Saul Alinsky is alt-right these days.[/quote] To be fair Milo Y is gay and alt-right

Probably by the same people who've labeled Philip DeFranco as alt-right.