More finger pointing at solely pvp. Trench, full auto, rockets, cluster, machine guns, Whisper. That is some stuff that got nerfed because of PvE crowd. But yes it’s always the PvP crowd.

Please be sure to be clear with your comment. The whining may be from PvP but it's not from the PvP players. Anyone reasonably competent will know to just not engage at close distance. It's the people who literally play crucible for 5 games a week for the milestone that complain. Often spouting the "I'd play more if it wasnt for lunas" or "I'm actually pretty good but lunas is just too OP" lines. Ultimately they end up getting nerfs in a game type they dont even play