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Edited by Ujellysiiiiiip:
4/27/2019 11:01:34 AM
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Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten's nerf is unfair
I don't think Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten's nerf is needed nor is it a way to reward players who invested time and effort getting any of these guns.
I am not a great pvp player, I am kind of ok but that's it. But you know what? I saw Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten and decided I wanted to invest myself as much as I could to get at least one of them.
I suffered through competitive. I gained ranks. I lost ranks. I teamed up with random guardians on LFG. I went solo. Rinse and repeat.
But one day I managed to get Luna's Howl. I was so happy. I felt like I had finally achieved victory and somehow managed to get as close as I could have ever gotten to the top of the mountain. Nothing will replace this moment, even getting 1k voices wasn't as thrilling as this was.
The gun is strong : as it should be since it is a gun that I, and many other guardians traded for time, sweat, moments of hopes and disbelief.
I am sure a lot of people have probably had the same harsh and frustrating journey I had.
This nerf : https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/47793 is basically a slap in the face directly from you (Bungie) to me and these people.
You are definitly not taking the people who suffered to get both of these guns into account when making the decision to nerf these. I am not very smart but I can tell just from reading it and seeing the uproar it's causing. It especially ruins its PVE efficiency.
Do you remember when talking about Forsaken and the future of Destiny 2 you said : "Players want their investment in Destiny to matter" ? https://youtu.be/vQDH-3Hu4PI?t=444
Well I still do.
It would have been nice if you had NOT FORGOTTEN.
(get it?)
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Hey everyone! Most of you do make really good points in defending this nerf!
However the issue is that I never really cared about the pvp changes, sorry it's definitively my fault as I wasn't clear enough and should have adressed it in a better way :
-With this nerf people using it will still kill in three shots (2 headshots + 1 bodyshot with the perk) slightly faster than others since it's, sadly, still a precision frame with 150 rpm.
-What I am annoyed about is the perk Magnificient Howl loosing it's usefulness in PVE. It was really great especially against bosses but felt like a really good jack of all trades in general.
-In perspective, the worst is that the change to this perk will not change much and only encourage people in pvp to aim for the body instead of the head to kill in three shots more easily.
-Reducing its rpm is fine with me but making its perk useless in pve is a whole other story.
-A slower rpm, , making the perk having a shorter duration, cancelling it if you miss a shot or hit a body shot and not deal bonus damages on body shots but only precision shots would have been a better solution (to me at least).
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I agree I haven’t played in sometime I come back and they nerf the best 2 hardest hand cannons to get, plus you have these tards running around with telesto and jotunn 1 shotting everything but the hand cannons are the issue lol, bungie must be a bernie supporter.
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I feel like the nerf was very disrespectful when you have weapons that require no skill like the jotunn in the game. if anything they could've just changed the rpms. the perk should've stayed the same.
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1 ReplyIt's not unfair. Everyone knew nerfs had to happen. Everyone knows nerfs have to happen. People are just kicking up a tantrum because their toy is being remade after 8 long months. If you wanted it you should have gotten it earlier. The meta is so stale it's a joke. Bungie have been inactive on the topic of these weapons for so long it's a joke. Complain all you want, if you want someone to blame for the nerfs, blame every single player who used and abused Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten. Then blame yourself for waiting and expecting the meta to stay this way forever when it's brought the game to an all time low.
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2 RepliesI like how you aren't trying to argue anything about the actual nerf itself but rather are fighting the idea that something that was hard to get should be subject to any balance changes at all.
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1 ReplyLunas Howl is not a skilled weapon. It rewards mediocre aiming in form of a head-head-body bullet string rewarding optimal ttk, when other guns require 3 headshots. 180 rpm HC ttk: 1.00 seconds Lunas Howl: .67 seconds A .33 ttk advantage, thereby instantly making basically every single other hand cannon obsolete. It has high aim assist, low zoom, relatively good range, forgiveness in the form of a fast rpm, fast reload speed, good handling, it literally has no downside. 1 in every 10 kills comes from a Lunas Howl There is absolutely no reason that Lunas is as good as it is. So what players spent a few hours in comp for it? People spend hours on the other pinnacle weapons and those weapons don't destory game balance.
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😂nerfed
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Fuk u
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% Le Monarque and Service Revolver %
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2 RepliesSo because you are an admitted not as skilled player you deserve to be better than you are (that's what howl does) because you worked hard to get the gun? You should be focusing on just being a better player. Like everyone else who this gun is a crutch to. PvE stuff gets nerfed all the time only because of PvP and you don't see the PvP community caring about all players.
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3 Replies[quote]I don't think Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten's nerf is needed nor is it a way to reward players who invested time and effort getting any of these guns. I am not a great pvp player, I am kind of ok but that's it. But you know what? I saw Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten and decided I wanted to invest myself as much as I could to get at least one of them. I suffered through competitive. I gained ranks. I lost ranks. I teamed up with random guardians on LFG. I went solo. Rinse and repeat. But one day I managed to get Luna's Howl. I was so happy. I felt like I had finally achieved victory and somehow managed to get as close as I could have ever gotten to the top of the mountain. Nothing will replace this moment, even getting 1k voices wasn't as thrilling as this was. The gun is strong : as it should be since it is a gun that I, and many other guardians traded for time, sweat, moments of hopes and disbelief. I am sure a lot of people have probably had the same harsh and frustrating journey I had. This nerf : https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/47793 is basically a slap in the face directly from you (Bungie) to me and these people. You are definitly not taking the people who suffered to get both of these guns into account when making the decision to nerf these. I am not very smart but I can tell just from reading it and seeing the uproar it's causing. Do you remember when talking about Forsaken and the future of Destiny 2 you said : "Players want their investment in Destiny to matter" ? https://youtu.be/vQDH-3Hu4PI?t=444 Well I still do. It would have been nice if you had NOT FORGOTTEN. (get it?)[/quote] Lol hope you didn't pay for it
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You're still gonna get farmed whatever happens #livestock
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Not at all just caters to whiners. Yotunn will be next.
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If things don't change PVP is dead. You should welcome these changes to encourage more players into PVP, as it is the spread of pinnacle weapons in the current PVP player base demonstrates that there are very few casuals left. PVP needs to be a lot more welcoming to everyone. Giving a gun that rewards skilled play to a the highly skilled end of the player base was always a dumb idea.
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Nah. It’s completely fair. Keep dancing.
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Hey bud. Got my Luna’s, Mountaintop, and Recluse. I can live with a nerf.
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*grabs popcorn*
