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Edited by GiantSlayer: 4/22/2019 5:56:50 PM
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In Defense of Zavala

If this seems familiar, then it’s because I’ve made this post before. Due to the recent increase of EdgeLord Dredgens, I have felt the need to spread the Truth. So, let’s start by analyzing the common insult hurled at Zavala, “Zavala is a coward!” In the Red War, however, Zavala is the only one who rallies the guardians on Titan to make a counterattack, and although attacking the Almighty directly was a foolish idea, he at least wanted to do something, unlike Ikora who was wallowing in Self-pity and Cayde (Blasphemy!) Who was just gonna get himself killed (Although you could say he was trying to do something as well). And in the end, he is the one who devises the plan to retake the city, with us Disabling the Almighty, and Zavala fighting on [i]the Front Lines[/i]. This situation is where the Vanguard shines, and I hope more like it come soon. In Curse of Osiris, he really wasn’t against or for our actions (I don’t really know what he was doing.) so we will skip that expansion (which is probably what most people did). In Warmind, Zavala doesn’t want us to mess with Rasputin, and everyone seems to forget the last time someone did that Rasputin nuked the Iron Lords and unleashed SIVA. Rasputin is a Wild Card. And even when we protect him from Xol he still says he’ll “Defend humanity on his own terms.” There’s even an ongoing debate on whether or not he shot the traveler (although I personally don’t think he did) And now to Forsaken, where everyone favorite Hunter was mercilessly gunned down by the son of a Glitch known as Uldren. Ikora, the emotionally unbalanced person she is (no offense) calls for [i]every single guardian[/i] to storm the reef and kill Uldren to avenge [i]ONE[/i] person. Cayde or no, one person doesn’t merit the entirety of the Guardians to storm the reef, a place of no strategic importance, to kill Uldren, who was literally going mad. I even suspect that Zavala, as an Awoken, felt it wrong for him to kill his own kind, and a prince and brother to Mara Sov, no less.m! He tells us once the deed is done that he would’ve done it himself in another life, and I believe him. If he wasn’t solely responsible for the protection of the City, and would’ve seen Uldren kill Cayde, I bet my ghost (Sorry Echo) he would’ve done the same. Then we have the Lost Cryptarch quest, which is basically us doing the same thing as Forsaken but for a flipping [i]CRYPTARCH[/i] who wasn’t even from the city! We go to the Cosmodrome and learn that it’s been quarantined, and Zavala isn’t allowing anyone to step foot there. First of all, the quarantine was put in place by Saladin, not Zavala, and was even there before Rise of Iron, albeit not yet including the Cosmodrome. Second, the “Irradiated shank” that we encounter shows us that the Cosmodrome likely has large amounts of Radiation, which as the lore book “Ecydis” tells us is dangerous to guardians as being exposed and dying to it would start and endless cycle of death and resurrection. Thirdly, we simply have no reason to be there (unless of course you’re in hot pursuit of a certain Splicer captain). As I have said we’re already Avenging a random Reef Cryptarch, the place holds no strategic importance, and the Splicers and Devils and Hive packed up and left once the Red Legion arrived. Now for the Allegiance quest, where many Edgelords showed their true colors and sided with that shifty-eyed drifter. Some may point out that the ending is the same no matter which one you choose, that the investigation just proves that Drifter is Innocent, and the fact that we’re not siding with the vanguard at all, and rather the Praxic order, which also aren’t as bad as people (and the drifter) say they are, but that’s for another post I disagree. The choice matters, because both sides will remember your choice. Aunor is close with Ikora, so when the time comes she’ll remind her of our choice. Plus, if you side with the Drifter, he talks of a coming collapse and how we’ll escape with him, which is precisely why people don’t like Zavala! That, my fellow guardians, is true cowardice. Abandoning humanity just to save yourself is just wrong, even if you say you’ll save those who come with you. But the biggest reason that Zavala isn’t the “-blam!-“ everyone makes him out to be, is this:[spoiler][i]Whether we wanted it or not, we’ve stepped into war with the Cabal on Mars. So let’s start to taking out their command one by one. Valus Ta’arc. From what I can gather he commands he Siege Dancers from an imperial land tank just outside the rubicon, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses and break their grip on Freehold.[/i] And I’m not just meming, either. This is an attack ordered by Zavala, which is the opposite of cowardice.[/spoiler]

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  • "Guardians" That is literally the dumbest way to address mankinds guardian as Zavala ran away with his tail between his legs. One could say he wanted to "rebuild" on Titan but it is obvious that after losing the "Light". He was nothing more than a coward while the Guardian aka us, did all of the heavy lifting. Hell we got kicked off Ghaul's ship and were on the verge of death as we fled the city, but at least we still fought. Zavala was a broken mess after losing more lightless guardians on a planet so close to the Dreadnought, it was obvious that was a stupid plan. I mean just look at the damn thing, its still sitting right there in orbit in the rings of Saturn. Of course the hive would have eventually spread out and would you look at that, Titan isn't to far from the Dreadnought. What are "Guardians"? Do you have an answer as they aren't soldiers. Even though they threw thousands at the moon only to get massacred and when the Fallen houses united. More of them died and with each one who falls, that is one less "guardian" protecting mankind. One can make the arguement that stretching themselves thin is a bad move but remember. They had literally HUNDREDS of years to rebuild and the best they have is the city. I would laugh especially since the Cabal showed they can take it simply by bringing in a massive fleet. While in contrast what does the city have? Jump ships are the best they got and they aren't -blam!- much in terms of armament as the Cabal steamrolled over the Guardians. Say what you will about the sneak attack, but guess what. The Cabal took INITIATIVE. Using tactics established, they assaulted the city when they were celebrating. What kind of foolish leader would leave themselves exposed especially when they don't even have control of there own homeworld. Again they had hundreds of years to kick the Fallen out and instead they huddled under a giant ball in the sky. I am surprised the Cabal hadn't done this sooner as even before the Red Legion showed up. The Cabal had a sizeable fleet that would have still put the jump ships to shame. Oh well you'd think they'd have learned right? Wrong, the guardians are as arrogant as ever after regaining there light again and Zavala refuses to take initiative. Not that it matters though as the Darkness are inbound. Also would like to point out the city is still rebuilding. Good bye City... again. Too late to do anything though as guess what. The guardians are splintered amongst themselves, the vanguard isn't as unified as one thinks and they are short a hunter vanguard. Guardians aren't shown to have replaced the hundreds, thousands if not tens of thousands gone and so they couldn't be weaker even if there god is "awake". The Traveler hasn't done s*it since it woke up and a massive fleet is inbound. Oh well, with the incompetence of the vanguard on display at least the warmind is willing to take initiative. Not that it matters though as even when mankind was at there height, he couldn't stop the darkness and we are still busy with the Scorn and Savathun so yeah... Hopeless is the best word to describe D3.

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