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3/3/2019 1:28:06 PM
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A video on the topic of deity/religion/spirituality and morality...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJrlnu7cG5s FANTASTIC comment section! Going to bed now, will post own thoughts later, but feel free to have at it (civilly) here/now. H o T h and Z a r d o z and the like...hopefully.... Echo and kely2 bytching at each other for no reason, perhaps as co-workers in some data center bought-and-paid-for to sow discord and strife on important topics like the polylogist deconstructionalists dey can be sometimes...not so much. The question can be a bit of a false dichotomy depending on definitions of words and then things break down between people with different definitions so try to define what one means FIRST then explain the thought process. BBL...G'night!

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  • Edited by H1vac: 3/4/2019 4:45:07 PM
    Something smells...whaley. Edit: NVM

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  • Edited by JonnyMadDog1: 3/4/2019 10:03:47 AM
    Bump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIK__ikk6ac The Solution...according to 'the maestro'. Enjoy.

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  • ... WHAT...THE...-blam!-... I can actually, read this... [spoiler]not included in the DLC[/spoiler]

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    • It's not a matter of trying to get the right ring-bearer of the Lohrd of the Rings movies' canon, it's a matter of 'FUHK YHO PRECIOUS RINGS!' /toss'emintothelava Trying to elect someone to give up yr rights to point guns at people who are not held accountable for their actions as holders of people accountable for their actions is a sheehp arguing with wulves for dinner. It's a matter of system and of distribution of a resource/good/service. Beynd agriculture, it could be defense, credit, arbitration, whatever. Don't conflate concept with its execution, currently or in the past, by the State/a State. Violence is a concept, it is eternal. The cosmos is full of violence, star clusters, nebulae, supernova, etc.. Policing can be done by small critters around a leaf or a plastic house on the patio, it is a concept. AnCap-minded folk just want to PRIVATIZE such a concept on an economy-of-scale with everything being a subscription, voluntary subscriptions, NOT conscription via violence. Violence would decrease as a result. Shytcago is full of pygs...full of violence...boonies aren't and are peaceful....hmmmm.....interesting. Good men are not expected to follow bahd laws and the P a r e t o, P e t e r, S h i r k y principles and R a n d's Razor are CONTINUALLY succumbed to by the State's distributism monopoly. Stop making everything out to be a crime! Young people not able to live like their ancestors did and party like in the comedy movies wi all grew up watching with hijinks and naked people and drinks and shyt but knowing such exists in a puritanical prohibitionist society causes DESTRUCTION! One cannot suppress such desires and vices, vices are not crimes, as S p o o n e r wrote and talked about. It is NOT a zero-sum game teetr-tottr on the playground. This user doesn't HAVE to go to church to not be an alcoholic or to abstain from sexual encounters...that's a parenting and self-discipline thing. Expecting the State OR the church to be one's parentis tempore is BULSHYT AND WRONG!

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    • ... Have I stumbled into an alternate dimension? A JonnyMadDog post with likes?!

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      • Edited by JonnyMadDog1: 3/4/2019 1:24:34 AM
        Shout out to Machine here for the A C C quote and comment this user agrees with. This user believes a deity, not necessarily a he or she but an it (perhaps in the grammar of He as men are used as the preferred pronoun in traditional writing instead of 'he or she' for better syntax and the sake of argument) as an allegory/alliteration to the 'universe' and its workings of diffusion and belief system, like money/currency -- as Adm Smyth said is imaginary and subjective valuation, contrary to Mrxist trash that think labor and items have an objective value...if this user wants to sell their cellphone for a pencil and doesn't value the labor of a fast food worker as much as a prowrestler or if someone else values vice versa, that is ENTIRELY FINE -- can and does exist, but is a 'hand-off' parent that prefers to play by their own rules of the game of life, because a theocracy forms when that doesn't happen and ruins the entire POINT of life, the desire to exist, to love and not impede the TRUTH, in this user's opinion is the 'meaning' of life and prefers to think that like the story of 'J o b', that man has been 'bet on' by both sides and to transcend being an animal into something more and bigger, the next step in human evolution: to not need the State or religion to keep their ego in-check. As ol' (now sell-out charlatan) Steffy Molymeme said, communism is basically Saytanic and Mrk Pasio says, to be an Ex-Saytanist is to be pro-truth and to not be able to have private property is to not be able to be stolen from and raypd and mrdered. Private property is ESSENTIAL to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness of Mankind! Stealing, rayp, mrder, etc., ALL boil down to theft of one's time, happiness, goodness, property, honor, etc.. It is THEFT that is the core of s i n, which means 'without' in Spanish/Latin, to be WITHOUT. So what is the opposite of s i n? To be WITH, to HAVE. As the ol' saying goes, the gawds favor those who need them least -Jasn and the Argonauts movie. As J u n g said, it's prychological hygiene, organized religion and the State, a monopoly on credit, arbitration, and defense, but they inevitably lead to, via tragedy of the commons, sustainability DEcreasing and illegitimate force/aggression/violating the N.A.P. INcreasing! Polycentricity, economies-of-scale, voluntarism is CRUCIAL to increasing sustainability and decreasing illegitimate force. The answer is ANARCHY! One CAN be moral without going to church rituals and giving up their time and money to nefarious corrupt molesters for ulterior motives like E p i c u r u s did and other hermits. Hermetic Principles, moral universalism, 10 commandments, etc., are varying interpretations of what people saw when venturing out into the world on all regions of it what happens when someone does something like those listed as crimes, and warns against doing so, because cosmic karma/negative actions are reciprocated and guilt is felt and one becomes unhappy and ruined because of those actions. Now the question today is of social- (and in racists' minds, genetic-)engineering. NO.SOCIAL.-.ENGINEERING.IS.REQUIRED! Repeat that over and over statists. FORCED association and FORCED disassociation (FORCED homogeneity and FORCED diversity) are NOT the answers to one another, they LEAD to the other in a Hgelian Dialectic and one creates their own enemy 'team' with equally hypocritical criteria/itineraries of purity spiraling. The perpetuation of conflicts for the perpetual selling of peace and 'truth'. SO sick of YTuber 'journalists' and 'skeptics' this user used to be a mega-fan of but are now exposed as nothing more than charlatans, namely the Conservativism Inc. tradth0t crowd. They are no better or different than the radical fake liberals by being radical fake conservatives. These are action-process descriptors NOT labels to identify as or see others as. What is a liberal? What is a conservative? These are NOT mutually exclusive from each other and society is NOT a zero-sum game of groups, let alone of immutable characteristics. Can't follow the Infowh0res crowd anymore, and this user is a mega-proponent of the truth and liberty movement/evolution and is in no way a 'progressive' (regressive) but seriously, the truth and liberty scene has been co-opted by CNP infiltrators. The U.S.S.A will never be a socialist country, ROFL at that speech, nothing more than bread-and-circus for the masses. IT ALREADY IS a Fasco-communist Kakistocracy, corporatocracy, psychopathocracy! The Constertution has either authorized it or was ineffective in preventing it. -L y s a n d e r S p o o n e r The Cathlick crowd has a growing Caliphate proponent base not much different from Islamo-fascists. R e a g a n once admitted, like R o b e r t H i g g s, there is no 'left' and 'right', merely authoritarianism and libertarianism and REAL conservatism is libertarianism and real libertarianism is anarchism. One either is of the individual's rights or a collective common good's OUGHTS either with force or without force. That is the true political spectrum's X and Y axis labeling. As Adm Smyth said again, individual ambition SERVES the common good. What is this 'greater good'? Stalyn, Hitlr, Mow, Leopohld, Tohjoh, EVERY DICTATOR EVER...how is kylling in the name of Gawd any different than kylling in the name of Alla any different than kylling in the name of Yahwey, any different than kylling in the name of the greater good any different than kylling in the name of one's own greedy narcissistic psychopathy for drugs and jewelry and vices? How can jackbooted thugs get a pass but this user cannot? Stop attacking the HOWS and render the WHYS as obsolete and ineffective as possible like B u c k m i n s t e r F u l l e r talked and wrote about. READ CRITICAL PATH! GOOD BOOK! Walls didn't work for Hadryan, Berlyn, the Sovietz, the Bastiylle armory, various castles, Troy, etc., except to keep people IN and CULLED! It's NOT a 'border' problem for some nation-state, nation-states and communal property DO.NOT.WORK. What if this user wants to leave and is poor and a private person who doesn't believe in the TSA or passports and was invited to private property by another or wishes to invite another to their OWN private property? It's as J e f f e r y T u c k e r said on a recent W A M interview, the biggest private property theft ever! This user is NOT going to any concentration camp cities underground to be drugged and indoctrinated while aliens fight overhead and history is rewritten and genetically-engineered! It's all CAUSED by the STATE and SOLVABLE in ANARCHY! A WELFARE-WARFARE Citizenship Federal Reserve note employment right-to-discriminate PROBLEM! Desertification in MORE than just agriculture people. Trying to forcibly segregate or integrate people is no better than VOLUNTARY segregation or integration! IT'S WORSE! No war on drugs, terror, or labor or culture or money laundering.... As a whole... But a war on THEIR (the competition's) drugs, terror, labor, culture, and money laundering to maintain monopolies of power by dynastic families who hate humanity, other ones, and themselves!!! Extremists who will never be happy until everyone thinks like they do and those who don't are ridiculed to deth for their resources! All wars are fought for resources for blakc budget ops and breakaway civilizations in Antarctica and in space. Gold to fund them. Paper money to try and cover up the theft of gold. It's not that a tribe of Muzzies and Gews living near each other have different customs and when private property is violated and one believes in capital punishment and the other doesn't is the problem to social-engineer, but the interaction BETWEEN them in arbitration, WHY something happened, how to prevent it, and the monopoly on credit and resources and defense that States have when the private sector fixing itself is the topic to be talked about! There are PLENTY of resources (some animated videos from B i t b u t t e r, R o b M u r p h y, V for V o l u n t a r y library, J a c o b S p i n n e y and Shan Kilian and others like on the M i s e s institute's shop site 'Order without the State' papers like from O s t r o m, C a r s o n, C h a r t i e r, and F r i e d m a n's polycentric law work) to peruse through if curious. Peace, Luv, and Anarchy! /rant

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        • I’m liking this just because it could actually be read.

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        • Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 3/3/2019 8:01:19 PM
          Concerning morality: There is a difference between someone that doesn’t harm others because they don’t want to, and someone that doesn’t harm others because they fear the repercussions of doing so. Authority distorts morality. ESPECIALLY when there is no demonstrable accountability for the supposed authority. “One of the greatest tragedies of mankind’s entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion.” - Arthur C. Clarke Some people have empathy and compassion for others. Some don’t. Some people act on that empathy and compassion for others. Some don’t. Most don’t extend it beyond their own personal circumstances. Beyond their own personal connections. Beyond their own brief time here. It is what it is, but no amount of fear and rule following makes one moral.

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        • Oh wow. It wasn’t a Rick Roll. Genuinely surprised. Y’all have messed me up for links

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