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Edited by The Dragon: 1/9/2019 3:35:17 AM
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I’m sure Bruce Lee was equivalent in proficiency and skill and strength and speed etc. of what you call “martial arts” to those of ancient Chinese warriors and monks of ages past, considering they also had the luxury to devote much of their time to training and combat and honing their skills. The best martial arts is having the ability to subdue the enemy with the least amount of force, or none at all. These restrained competitions revolving around rules and points miss the purpose of martial arts entirely. Ages ago, knight once challenged me. With lance in hand, he bore down on me upon his horse. Unamused, and frankly tired of the “chivalry” of the day, I sat down and stood my ground. Upon impact, the rider unhorsed himself and his lance splintered into pieces. As I stared down upon the man, who laid gazing back up in shock, he finally found his wits and ran off without his horse. My martial arts proved superior.
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  • yeah they really showed those wooden planks and bricks

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  • Lol this made me die

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  • [quote]yeah they really showed those wooden planks and bricks[/quote] Honestly I wonder where and how such practices began. At what point did a career warrior judge that breaking wooden planks and bricks with his body to be profitable and effective and to have any merit in contributing to defending himself or subduing the enemy? There is the merit of theatricality and intimidation to dissuade your opponents. I suppose that could be a valid tactic, then, since it avoids fighting altogether.

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  • [quote][quote]yeah they really showed those wooden planks and bricks[/quote] Honestly I wonder where and how such practices began. At what point did a career warrior judge that breaking wooden planks and bricks with his body to be profitable and effective and to have any merit in contributing to defending himself or subduing the enemy? There is the merit of theatricality and intimidation to dissuade your opponents. I suppose that could be a valid tactic, then, since it avoids fighting altogether.[/quote] Where and what else are you going to train on? Some times people would be living in remote wilderness’ with no sparring or active “live” training partners.

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  • [quote][quote][quote]yeah they really showed those wooden planks and bricks[/quote] Honestly I wonder where and how such practices began. At what point did a career warrior judge that breaking wooden planks and bricks with his body to be profitable and effective and to have any merit in contributing to defending himself or subduing the enemy? There is the merit of theatricality and intimidation to dissuade your opponents. I suppose that could be a valid tactic, then, since it avoids fighting altogether.[/quote] Where and what else are you going to train on? Some times people would be living in remote wilderness’ with no sparring or active “live” training partners.[/quote] Wood dummies. The point isn’t to break them, but to practice techniques. Bamboo has the consistency of human bone, so that’s the only thing worth “breaking in half”. In the middle of a battlefield, you might as well be using a weapon to break something as strong as wood or brick. Using your body would use too much energy.

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  • That’s why you see a lot of the Thai fighters conditioning their shins and legs on bamboo and trees of various sorts. In fact ON that subject I would say many of the Thai fighters could be candidates for at least top 10-20 spots on a greatest list. Many reach 100+ bouts in full contact or even bare knuckle Muai Thai. Lookchaomaesaitong, Buakaw (บัวขาว) or even Ramon “Diamond” Dekkers need to be highlighted.

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  • [quote]That’s why you see a lot of the Thai fighters conditioning their shins and legs on bamboo and trees of various sorts. In fact ON that subject I would say many of the Thai fighters could be candidates for at least top 10-20 spots on a greatest list. Many reach 100+ bouts in full contact or even bare knuckle Muai Thai. Lookchaomaesaitong, Buakaw (บัวขาว) or even Ramon “Diamond” Dekkers need to be highlighted.[/quote] The conditioning is dependent on numbing their sense of pain (or becoming used to it) in those areas, which is dependent upon those objects holding up to those strikes and impacts, not breaking. If they all broke upon impact, they’d fail in conditioning those strike zones of the body.

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  • maybe they just wanted terrible arthritis before their hair turned grey

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  • Yeah agreed - my point was (especially in regards to B Lee) was he was largely undocumented . Fighter like Ramon dekkers and Coban the crusher had far more brutal fights and hundreds of full rules fights by the end of their careers. Not street fights or undocumented opponents where it’s hard to gauge their skill and toughness. World champions and Lumpee stadium legends.

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