[quote]The vex were orgional key a symbiont species. There home world had two the Vex and another. The other were humanoid in appearance but lacked intelligence. Together, each complemented the other. Eventually they evolved and developed technology. During a teleportation experiment, an accident happened. Instead of teleporting, the Vex scientist extra-dimensionally travelled to a realm outside of time.[/quote] Many other Vex origin theories do involve another species helping them build bodies, and I would personally believe that they have had decent relationships with other species at some point. You’re also right that teleportation/quantum technology can easily lead to an accident with slipping out of reality. [quote]Once there he was changed into a non-linear being and became Aethon, or whomever is the singularity that leads the Vex. Once that happened, he evolved from the symbiont into the silica based form we know as Vex. That form is the most efficient version of the symbiont. After that, all the Vex that ever existed or are to exist were created, in one instant. [/quote] I see what you’re saying here, but frankly I just can’t see a symbiotic creature forming, even if two different beings, quantum splicing, and another reality are involved (that’s a lot of factors in your favor, so the fact that the idea is still a stretch says a lot. Again though, really cool idea). But if that did happen, what we do know about how time works in Destiny proves that they wouldn’t all *poof* into existence at once. They would have to build and spread a bit, but there would be other versions of the original doing the same in another time and space most likely, and once they opened up their inter-timestream system it’d only be a matter of time before they met and multiplied like crazy. Time is still relative to wherever the Vex act, the thing is they have contact with other times, so even having many copies of the exact same Vex is easily achievable. Oh and Atheon isn’t the first Vex. According to the Books of Sorrow it was actually our timeline that inspired the creation of him and the Vault. We don’t know what time or place they originally built him in, but the inspiration for it came only several hundred thousand years ago at most in comparison to the current time in Destiny. The part that makes it tricky to understand Atheon is that, as soon as he and the Vault were built, he instantaneously began to exist in all times and spaces at once. ;) [quote]Remember life for a Vex is a circle, one moment dying. The next being reborn. They exist out of time in a non-linear dimension. Everything happens because it always happens. A Vex exists, enters the normal time stream and either returns because it always returns or dies, because it always dies. The Vex understand they can't alter this or it creates a space time paradox that destroys everything. So Aethon is destine to die in the vault of glass, and destine to be reborn when the Vex are created. Because he is non-linear, his age can only be measured when he enters real time. Maybe he is 5 years old, maybe 100 million.[/quote] Ehhh even with your outside of time theory and effect-cause multiplication theory of their numbers, then dying would still be death. However, with both your theory and my theory that they connect from multiple time streams, even if one dies there are still a million other copies of that exact same Vex around, they’re just experiencing different things. Like if you were to clone yourself, or if you ended up in a parallel dimension and the other you got shot, you would still be unharmed. You are, however, wrong that Atheon was destined to die. As described by Kabr’s messages about the Aegis, because Atheon exists in all times and spaces at once, he is literally invincible and neigh-omnipresent. The only way to kill infinity itself was with something of equal power that was tied to the same infinity that he was (the Aegis), and doing so killed all of Atheon’s being in all times and all spaces. He would have have lived forever and already had technically lived through eons of life thanks to the Vault. When you kill a Vex goblin on Nessus, they die, but are re-born when they were created. Maybe the one you killed, kills you five years in the future because it entered the time stream at that point before it entered the time stream at the point where you kill it. [quote]So the Exo stranger exists either I. The same dimension that is out side of normal time, or she has captured one from the Vex. Now before you say how can she exist in the same dimension, the answer is quite simple. The Vex are at the end of the day a finite number. Maybe 100,000,000 trillion but a number that can somehow be expresses though scientific notation, or other numbering means. The dimension itself is of a much larger space. The 100,000,000 trillion Vex might occupy the Milky Way.[/quote] I also think she has somehow gotten into their system in a way, but my idea of their system is a web of tunnels and doorways that connect and open into different times and spaces, not a single room with doors leading to every other room as your idea can be related to (that’s probably the easiest to understand analogy to the Vex I have ever come up with lol). [quote]Also remeber ghost says Reals, plural. So the Exo stranger and her crew on their ship, which is probably no lager than the drifters could easily hide with the right cloaking technology in a realm not densely populated by the Vex, or in a realm they have locked the Vex out of.[/quote] “Reals”? She was clearly talking to just one person, and Ghost couldn’t even track or listen in on the signal to tell who was talking. The only reason we even know there’s a ship is because she said so.