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Edited by thesith411: 10/5/2018 7:50:38 PM
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Suggested Changes for Code of the Devastator for PvP Viability

As some may know, the new Sunbreaker subclass tree, Code of the Devastator, has some issues in PvP ([b]it's perfectly fine in PvE[/b]). First, its super can be easily avoided just by jumping/flying over it, since it has no move that can deal with in-air targets. The slam is too slow for in-air targets (it's fine on the ground) and has no tracking (I'm not talking about the fire projectile, but the slam itself). The spin has terrible range, tracking, and damage (a massive 2-handed Warhammer of Sol can't even kill a normal guardian in one hit, unlike its smaller counterpart Hammer of Sol). Second, the throwing hammer in PvP is way too slow, doesn't have any tracking (it's way too easy for enemy guardians in close range to dodge it just by [u]walking[/u]), it's easy to lose, and losing it [b]cripples[/b] you since your subclass tree is indirectly built around it. Now, here are some suggestions to solve these issues: [b]Super[/b]: the spin should be replaced with a dash/charge move that'll barrel through enemies and leave a trail of fire, mostly for mobility and probably have decreased super energy cost (like Suncharge in D1, but not nearly as strong tracking, also it'd be great if you move like how the subclass tree's pictured titan is posed in the menu) [u]Update[/u]: Before I forget, I must mention the issue with the fire tornado launching enemies in the air, especially in PvE. Now, I must ask, whose idea was this? Why? I remember seeing a post about having the tornado instead draw enemies in, like a tornado usually does. I'm sorry I'm not able to give you credit since your name has escaped me. [b]Throwing Hammer[/b]: faster throw or better tracking for hammer throw in PvP (tracking is turned off for PvP, I think), increased pick-up range, and an indicator to point out your hammer's location (it sucks losing your hammer since the tree is indirectly built around it). Honorable Mention For [b]Sunbreakers[/b]: [b]Exotics[/b]: only one in the history of Destiny is good, Hallowfire Heart. But even then, it gives a perk that already existed in D1, so it's unoriginal for D2. All of these exotics have been straight up bad (Khepri's Horn and Ashen Wake) or unoriginal (Immolation Fists, D1 though, and Hallowfire Heart), and they haven't had much of an impact, especially in PvP. P.S. I still love you Hallowfire[/quote] My goal for this subclass tree is to make it decent in terms of its viability in PvP. Plus, I'm [b]extremely[/b] tired of having to only use and see Code of the Fire-Forged (top tree) in the Crucible.

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  • Hallowfire Heart isn't even that good.

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  • But ashen wake gives you wombo combo with sjolnir :(

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  • I definitely agree about an indicator showing where your thrown hammer is at. I made a post on this a few days ago. I’d love a little hammer icon on my radar showing where it’s at lol. As for the throwing hammer itself, it does have tracking in both pvp and pve. I personally think it’s fine. It does good damage, has slight tracking, and it’s great vs shotgun rushers. It’s really fun to pair it with the No Turning Back bow. One body shot with that and a hammer toss is enough to kill a guardian. Really fun. As for the super, I have experienced the problem of people simply jumping to avoid it. It’s annoying, but I’ve found that just by being patient and waiting for them to come down works best for not wasting super energy on them. Still frustrating though. I like your idea about a dash move. I doubt that could be easily implemented though. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a whole new “move” added to a super after its been released. But if they could, I think it’d have to be usable only in the air. So R2 is always overhead smash, R1 on the ground is spin to win, and R1 in the air is a dash similar to sun charge. That’d be awesome. I have to admit that the super does excel in super vs super combat. At least vs other roaming supers. And burning maul does last for a surprising large amount of time. If it had an aerial suncharge move, it’d be icing on the cake.

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    • Interesting idea. Personally, I think the tracking on the hammer and the speed it travels is fine. Think of it this way, if it flew any faster the tracking it had now wouldn't work very well (look at stickies with fastball). I think in regards to it's utility its fine, but an indicator of where it is would be nice. I hate throwing my hammer at something and then it kind of just vanishes, only to hear itexplode behind me. Also, the hammer still tracks in pvp. As for the super...a charge would certainly be nice, but I think it would reduce the utility of the hammer itself when its supposed to be the main feature. I think they could always use the uppercut style attack swords have in the air vs the spin to make it more usable, but not directly get rid of the spin. Just tweak roaring flames to reduce the energy required to spin, it would make it so much better. As for exotics, I was thinking maybe a melee charge that allows you to use a weakened version of your super slam that leaves a mini tornado. As much as I like the hammer throw, I feel this would be so much cooler as it would still allow you to make use of your big hammer. Maybe the exotic allow you to increase the total stacks of roaring flames to 5. Another one would be to have immolation fists grant all skill trees of sunbreaker explosive pyre on all solar abilities. On grenades and melee it could be weaker like a dragonfly explosion, but imagine explosive pyre for burning maul...hahahahahahaaaaa! *clears throat* excuse that.

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