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9/19/2018 6:36:28 PM
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I'm really dissapointed that Bethesda went and made this game after they put out that #SavePlayerOne campaign.
What really grinds my gears is that the game environment looks absolutely phenominal and it's being wasted on mp.
And for a time I was considering trying this game, but then they announced it was going to be survival only, with weapon and armor degredation and mutations. Sorry, nope. Solid pass.
If it had been designed along the same lines of Saint's Row, where it was primarily single player, but it also has OPTIONAL co-op, I wouldn't have an issue.
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It should be noted that the Austin branch of Bethesda game studios did most of the work on fallout 76. Any Bethesda fan that expected fallout 76 to be another typical single player game before it was announced as a multiplayer softcore survival game should re-evaluate their thinking process. I don’t mind fallout 76 being multiplayer, the map is perfect for mp. Large and expansive but not very dense. I would’ve been pissed and absolutely infuriated if fallout 76 turned out to be single player cause I want my F’n elder scrolls 6 already or at least Starfield ffs.
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[quote]It should be noted that the Austin branch of Bethesda game studios did most of the work on fallout 76. Any Bethesda fan that expected fallout 76 to be another typical single player game before it was announced as a multiplayer softcore survival game should re-evaluate their thinking process. I don’t mind fallout 76 being multiplayer, the map is perfect for mp. Large and expansive but not very dense. I would’ve been pissed and absolutely infuriated if fallout 76 turned out to be single player cause I want my F’n elder scrolls 6 already or at least Starfield ffs.[/quote] I don't appreciate being told how I should think about something thank you very much.
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Okay, but you should at least upvote my post on the off topic forum
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[quote]Okay, but you should at least upvote my post on the off topic forum[/quote] Link to the thread please, I'll take a look.
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Warning: read at your own risk [spoiler] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/248727121/0/0[/spoiler]
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[quote]Warning: read at your own risk [spoiler] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/248727121/0/0[/spoiler][/quote] Even though I'm not a fan of Avatar I went ahead and gave your post a like. Hope the new show turns out good for ya.
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Thanks, I figured the best strategy to get a post upvoted was to link it in every other post. I must be really bored to go out of my way to do this.
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I thought people LIKED weapon heath? Mutations sound like they could be really cool and fun too. For single player games that have Rage 2, Starfield, Elder Scrolls VI, Doom Eternal, and the Wolfenstein co-op thing (DLC or new game?) and Prey and Evil Within 2 are already out. Fallout 76 and Quake Champions are their only MP only games basically.
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Sure they supported the saveplayerone campaign and they still do. Should they be restricted to only making SP games though? I don't. Even with FO76 they've put out SP content like prey and Wolfenstein and even though doom will likely have multiplayer, it's tailored towards SP and those are also Bethesda games. They put out more SP stuff than they do MP. I can understand FO fans not being to excited with FO76 as they're not used to multiplayer functions to a FO game, but I'd still wager they'll have SP FO games in the future for those still wanting that experience.
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Edited by RykerAnime61: 9/22/2018 5:50:40 AM[quote]Sure they supported the saveplayerone campaign and they still do. Should they be restricted to only making SP games though? I don't. Even with FO76 they've put out SP content like prey and Wolfenstein and even though doom will likely have multiplayer, it's tailored towards SP and those are also Bethesda games. They put out more SP stuff than they do MP. I can understand FO fans not being to excited with FO76 as they're not used to multiplayer functions to a FO game, but I'd still wager they'll have SP FO games in the future for those still wanting that experience.[/quote] Except that now BGS has painted themselves into a corner by releaseing the Save Player One campaigne in 2017 then in 2018 they announce a Fallout mp game. And those other games you mentioned were developed by devs under Bethesda Softworks, the publisher. Now, no matter how much they try to re-assure their fanbase, no one believes that TES6, Starfield, and Fallout 5 will be single player. Add on to the fact that BGS's SP fans won't be getting a SP game from them for a good long while. BGS already has a long enough dev cycle, Fallout 76 only complicates the problem.
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And are you sure BGS marketed the campaign and not Bethesda in general? Cause I don't see why one studio alone would do so, hence me referencing the various other IPs Bethesda works with even if they themselves don't make it as they do market them. To me it's only painting themselves into a corner if people think they should only do SP and nothing but SP which I find unreasonable considering the manpower they have to put out so many games. If they're still making SP projects, I don't see why they can't do some multiplayer things as well as it let's them get a slice of that market and they're trying something new, fallout has never been multiplayer so this will be a new experience for those giving it a try and I'm sure Bethesda would get away from it of it doesn't satisfy their hopes/ goals with it, even if successful I don't see them just throwing away their SP crowd.
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[quote]And are you sure BGS marketed the campaign and not Bethesda in general? Cause I don't see why one studio alone would do so, hence me referencing the various other IPs Bethesda works with even if they themselves don't make it as they do market them. To me it's only painting themselves into a corner if people think they should only do SP and nothing but SP which I find unreasonable considering the manpower they have to put out so many games. If they're still making SP projects, I don't see why they can't do some multiplayer things as well as it let's them get a slice of that market and they're trying something new, fallout has never been multiplayer so this will be a new experience for those giving it a try and I'm sure Bethesda would get away from it of it doesn't satisfy their hopes/ goals with it, even if successful I don't see them just throwing away their SP crowd.[/quote] If Bethesda hadn't released that #SavePlayerOne campagine last year and just announced Fallout 76 as a mp title at E3 this year, people would be angry with Bethesda, but not nearly as angry as they are right now. A lot of people are downright furious. And no matter how much Beth claims that after Fallout 76 comes out that their going back to SP games, nobody is going to believe them. Fallout 76 is going to cost their future sp games sales. One of the biggest things about BGS games is their big open worlds that you can play around in and just get lost in with no worries. Sometimes I just like wander around and explore. You can't do that in Fallout 76. You can go off and explore, sure, but now you have to worry about someone finding a way to ruining your excursions. Minecraft is a perfect example of allowing mp into the game, and attracting trolls and griefers.
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Another single player game they have under their roof is Rage 2 and I was totally bummed out when they announced it was single player. That game looks like it would be amazing with friends. At least co-op for sure.
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[quote]Another single player game they have under their roof is Rage 2 and I was totally bummed out when they announced it was single player. That game looks like it would be amazing with friends. At least co-op for sure.[/quote] Rage 2 is being co-deved by Avalanche Studios and id Soft. And there's indications that it'll have mp.
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Not from the info I got on the Reddit page.
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[quote]Not from the info I got on the Reddit page.[/quote] Bethesda Softworks is the publisher, Avalanche Studios and ID are co-deving the game. Avalanche is handling the open world aspects while ID is working on the shooting mechanics and maybe the driving.
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Oh, I know all that...really. I was really interested until I seen that its not supporting any MP. Not even co-op. I wish I could link the topic that I read that on. I know its under the rage 2 on Reddit. Pretty sure it was a dev that confirmed it. Hopefully they change their minds. O would love to explore Rage 2 with a buddy.
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[quote]Oh, I know all that...really. I was really interested until I seen that its not supporting any MP. Not even co-op. I wish I could link the topic that I read that on. I know its under the rage 2 on Reddit. Pretty sure it was a dev that confirmed it. Hopefully they change their minds. O would love to explore Rage 2 with a buddy.[/quote] Honestly, I'm glad it won't have mp. It gives them the chance to really polish the game and make it something great. And it was Tim Willits that confirmed no mp in an article on PCGamesN. Now they did indicate that it will have a social component(whatever that is). PS you double posted.
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Oh, I know all that...really. I was really interested until I seen that its not supporting any MP. Not even co-op. I wish I could link the topic that I read that on. I know its under the rage 2 on Reddit. Pretty sure it was a dev that confirmed it. Hopefully they change their minds. O would love to explore Rage 2 with a buddy.
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There's nothing wrong with them trying something different, and for single player you have elder scrolls 6 and starfield coming out eventually
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[quote]There's nothing wrong with them trying something different, and for single player you have elder scrolls 6 and starfield coming out eventually[/quote] Yea, eventually is the key word there. And I've seen people scoff at their claims that Starfield and TES6 will be SP only, that's how bad it is right now.
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You can still play the game solo, put they are trying out something differentiate the multiplayer. and who knows may be it so L be great. Bethesda is one of the better developers\ publishers. They at least deserve the chance to try something different. Just wait to see how it turns out. If it sucks, just downloaded anytime or fallout 4 or one of those new fallout new Vegas or Miami mods.
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Please excuse the cancer that is my spelling
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[quote]You can still play the game solo, put they are trying out something differentiate the multiplayer. and who knows may be it so L be great. Bethesda is one of the better developers\ publishers. They at least deserve the chance to try something different. Just wait to see how it turns out. If it sucks, just downloaded anytime or fallout 4 or one of those new fallout new Vegas or Miami mods.[/quote] Solo means your the only one on the map, no one else is there. There will be other people on the map with you, so your not playing solo. The problem is that Fallout fans won't be getting a proper, Single Player Fallout game for a good long while now. People were hoping that the opening of new studios would mean a reduction in the dev cycle. Instead, the Austin branch is going to be solely responsible for F76 and the BGS studios in Canada are responsible for mobile titles. That is inefficient usage of resources. The Austin studio could have a great SP Fallout side game come out. Instead their talents are being wasted on a mp Fallout game that is very likely to suffer the same problems ESO faced when it launched.
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Edited by RykerAnime61: 9/30/2018 9:16:10 PM[quote]There's nothing wrong with them trying something different, and for single player you have elder scrolls 6 and starfield coming out eventually[/quote] Yea, eventually is the key word there. And I've seen people scoff at their claims that Starfield and TES6 will be SP only, that's how bad it is right now. PS No, there's nothing wrong with them trying something new, as long as it's a new IP and not an established one.
