[quote]Watch cammycakes new video[/quote] I did, and while I respect the guy, I think he really ought to play other games to know where snipers stand in pvp right now. They are mediocre at best. There really isn't any reason to use one if you intend on winning in any playlist that involves 6v6. Compared to other games, the snipers in Destiny are terrible. They get almost no ammo, and they are extremely easy to counter.

Exactly.