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12/7/2017 9:48:58 PM
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Are you ready for P2W in Destiny? Because it's coming very soon!

That job description... [url=https://careers.bungie.com/en-us/careers/game-design/938163/senior-progression-designer---live]Senior Progression Designer - Live[/url] [quote]Do you follow trends of gear, builds and vanity items in MMOs? Do you understand the difference between too much and too little randomness in player rewards? Do you obsess about how the rarity, cost or challenge of acquisition of items in a virtual world drive or fail to drive player behavior? Do you know how all of these things could be done better in Destiny? If so, we may be looking for you! Bungie is looking for an experienced, creative, and technical Progression Designer for the Destiny franchise. As a member of the Live Team, the Senior Progression Designer works with a diverse array of disciplines to build and maintain Destiny’s monetization business: the Eververse. You will work with Artists to plan and realize new items, and with Engineers and other Designers to imbue it with function. The ideal candidate will be a force in creating alignment and support for new designs and monetization strategies. [/quote] [quote]Responsibilities: - Create sustainable player progression and chase through Destiny 2’s Bright Engram - Work closely with our Live leadership team to craft a long-term vision for the Eververse and its presence in the Destiny IP - Work closely with our Live product manager to analyze key performance indicators to inform design - Design and implement new features and systems with an eye on engagement, retention, and monetization - Use data and design sensibilities to define strategies for maintaining ideal engagement patterns and maximizing player satisfaction - Work with Destiny 2 leadership to help define a cohesive monetization experience across multiple expansions and seasons - Manage the creative and craft growth of Progression designers on the Eververse team and help establish a strong design culture [/quote] [quote]Required Skills: - 5 or more years of experience working as a Systems/Economy designer, with 1 or more years of experience at a Senior Design level - Proven track record of designing and implementing monetization systems in AAA games - Seasoned understanding of game engines, tools, and the game development process - Strong systems designer with a deep understanding of progression and reward economies, as well as industry microtransaction models - Ability to comfortably and confidently collaborate with Designers, Artists, Programmers, Testers and Producers to achieve a common goal - Strong communicator that can build alignment with leadership, peers and reports - Accepting of feedback and constantly improving designs based on feedback from all across the studio [/quote] I and several other people on here like Boomer, called this the minute that Bungie announced a Cash Shop was being implemented in Destiny 1. There's already more to buy from Eververse as of the Curse of Osiris, than you will get from loot drops in the DLC. Most of the Armor Ornaments that Bungie said was coming, are going to be in the Eververse. By the time D2 has their TTK-type of DLC drop, I fully expect Pay-2-Win will be available from the Eververse. If not by then, then definitely with Destiny 3. But the BDF said Bungie would -NEVER- put P2W into Destiny. Hell, Bungie themselves even swore (and still swears) that Eververse would only ever be "cosmetic only". How else could the Eververse "progress" beyond what it is now, than to start offering actual Weapons, Armor, and end-game-tier Mods? That's the only place left that the Eververse -COULD- progress to. Pay-to-Win is coming to Destiny very soon. It's all-but guaranteed now.

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  • The eververse end game. No defense of this. It talks over and over about the "progression" and "chase" in the game and is tied to eververse. They don't even try to hide it.

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    • I agree 100%, and I recall when Eververse first opened up shop, and all the BS we were fed. Hell people still believe it, Things like: Eververse Purchases will fund DLC/Events! -- umm, no, just more Eververse-themed events It'll be forever only cosmetic! -- umm, that job post clearly says differently. I also think you've nailed the timing of it, I'm sure they'd LOVE to have this fully up & running by the time the D2-TTK-Equivalent drops, and they likely will. In the mean time, they'll stay the course with the usual methods of distracting the player base. Things like OP weapons releasing "with a bug", then selling said weapon from Xur.

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    • I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the first item to be sold. If they ever offer any item that can only be obtained with real money, and gives me an advantage over other players, I will quit, and never look back. As long as all the junk in the store, is just worthless pretty things, that I can also get for free by just playing, I say rock on!

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    • No, no no! Don't you remember Nox? The BDF explained to us way back when Eververse first came around that this would always ONLY be cosmetic and that people like me, you, and others were just pissy and living in a conspiracy. Because, we've NEVER seen shit like this before, right? I mean, it's all just cosmetics so calm down! ~ amirite?

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      • That's a ton of assumptions.

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        • downvote because this whole conversation ASSUMES a lot. And to those saying, "oh, they told on themselves because they removed the job post," get a life. There are a million reasons it could have been removed, including the obvious: they hired someone to fill the position.

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        • Saw this before. It is very worrying.

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          • I'm bumping this because, after Community outcry, anger, even more rage, and the obvious that Bungie told on themselves and that Destiny is nothing more than a cash cow, Bungie removed the job posting. Don't think that this solves the issue though, Bungie and Activi$ion still need that position filled. They just removed the public posting for the job, to try to deflect even yet more Community anger. But the job listing is about as clear as it gets. Bungie is going to be putting more and more content, much more content, behind pay walls and the Eververse. The games in the Destiny franchise will keep shrinking in meaningful content, and more and more items are going to be "for sale" than you can earn in the game. Bungie doesn't give two shits about you. Bungie doesn't give two shits about their game. Bungie only cares about psychological manipulation, and how they can use that to milk you dry through the Eververse.

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