Trust me D2 is a whole hell of a lot more of a "corner camp fest" than D1 ever was. But I get the hate against Thorn, LITC, and alike. There is no doubt that D1 had its fair share of issues, but at least it wasn't boring. And I know what you mean with Rift, the spawns were thoroughly broken so mercying with a team was rather easy lol. I think at this point its very apparent that Bungie has no intention of listening to their community. Especially after there was so much hate towards things like high caliber rounds and sidearms towards the end of D1. Yet what is ruling the crucible right now? High caliber rounds and Last Hope. Bungie is trying to balance Destiny pvp, which is no small feat. But they have limited the opportunity for exciting gameplay and given us nothing in place of that, such as ranked. D1 crucible was almost always a hot mess, but like I said: at least it wasn't boring.