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Edited by G33KBOSS01: 9/14/2017 4:16:10 PM
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Why Some People Don't Want to Play With a Fireteam

Hi, I’m a D1 player who logged over 3000 hours. I play Crucible all the time, it’s my favorite Destiny Activity. I’m decent, not great. (I hate Rumble BTW. Ironic, I know. I actually live for being a team player) I did all the Raids, a lot. (I didn’t get Rise of Iron) I was in a very successful Clan in D1(Knights of the Phoenix) I have a lot friends on my friendlist. So why do I, and other people, prefer to play solo 90% of the time? There are several reasons, and I will try to be as concise as possible. I HAVE LIMITED TIME TO PLAY: When I get home, if I have time, I just want to jump into whatever activity I feel like playing. I don’t want to see who is online, what activity they are doing, jump into their party, ask them if they want to do what I want to do, wait in orbit, wait for two other people to join, or respond to my messages, and THEN deal with the apology messages of, sorry already full etc etc. I HAVE EMOTIONAL ANGST ABOUT THESE SOCIAL INTERACTIONS: When I ask for friends to join me who are engaged in another activity I feel like I am bothering them. Whether this is true or not, this is how it makes me feel, and I would rather not deal with it. I DON’T ALWAYS FEEL LIKE TALKING: Often times in these groups people are chatting away about their personal life, and it can be overwhelming to me. I DO enjoy talking about the game, like callouts in PvP, but usually the constant conversation about day-to-day life stresses me out and takes me out of the experience I am trying to enjoy. (I hate CO-OP in story modes, because I can’t focus on the experience AT ALL) This probably sounds funny to some people, but I bet for A LOT of solo players this is one of their main reasons for preferring the Lone-Wolf. THE STOP-START EXPERIENCE WITH GROUPS IS GRATING: Play a match. One person leaves. 5 Minutes in Orbit till someone else can join. Play a match, two people leave. Find replacements. Another 5 minutes. This tends to stress me out a lot. I don’t know if I am coming off as a whiny wuss, but I wanted to shed some light on why a lot of Guardians might prefer to play Solo. Maybe I am way off base. Comments will let me know I guess. EDIT: There appears to be some confusion here so I will clarify. I don't want Destiny to change. It should be a social game. It's awesome that way. I DO have a good time in 90% of Fireteams. I play with people all the time. The ONLY thing I would want either removed or tweaked is Skill Based Matchmaking. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS POST IS ABOUT. I'm just trying to give a perspective of why players choose to play Solo. Even with friends, not everyone can beat a Raid or go Flawless in Trials, and that is the way it should be. I LOVE DESTINY.

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  • A D1 player with over 3000 hours played. I have limited time to play. These two statements do not belong together.

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    • Edited by GoGoGadgetGoonie: 9/15/2017 1:33:50 AM
      Are you me? Joking aside, this is almost the same reasons I solo Destiny. I get off work or classes and sometimes I just want to sit down, tune out, blast music, and patrol for just a few hours. I don't mind chatting and interacting with people though, maybe I talk too much though. In fact I made a clan on PS4 for people just like you and me called [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=2462058]The Lonesome Guardians.[/url] We like to mostly play alone but some of the time we enjoy being on a fireteam from time to time.

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    • agree...sums it all up in a nutshell.

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    • I don't like dealing with people's bullshit.

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      • BRAVO. If I was a college student again it would be different, and I would also not be going to class half of the time. I prefer to solo most of the time as well. It's relaxing and enjoyable and I don't have to worry about over performing or underperforming with talk or play. However, it's great every now and then to get a fire team together. Thx for your post. Peace out guardian

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      • Edited by Dooodley: 9/14/2017 8:30:46 AM
        That's weird because I'm always told by this forum that it's because solo players are bad at the game and can't make friends. Couple of issues with the way this forum sees things. Adding a stranger to your friendlist does not make them a friend. If that's someone's definition of friend they probably dont have any real friends. Second, in my expereince - and from having spent most of D1 raiding with LFG groups - there are way better solo players out there than clan/group associated people. My best expereinces have been with teams where everyone joined in solo or duos. Playing with clans is a total hit or miss situation. Sure, sometimes they'll be ok but even when they play well you have to listen to their inside-jibberjabber. And when they're bad they're really bad. Now you know where I stand on guided games too. It's going to be really taxing on the people joining clans for raids. Personally I'd say that Destiny drove me into becoming a solo player. Never before have I encountered an as stupid and casual playerpool. It's more or less impossible to find a decent person to play with in this game. I'm aware that there are reasonable players out there but finding them is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Another factor is that once you find someone decent to play with you better hope that they live fairly close to you - because the pisspoor netcode in this game won't allow you to have a tolerable expereince with someone across the pond - or on the other coast for that matter.

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        • I'm on Xbox and I remain offline 95% of the time because I like to solo things. And I only get an hour MAYBE two to play Sunday through Thursday. Friday and Saturday I appear online so I can join my friends and we can play together. And sometimes, I simply want to be left alone to do a specific task and I want the glory of doing it by myself. My friends understand this and have never cried about it and I don't cry if they have a full raid team and didn't get an invite. If I want to raid or do the NF, I usually send a message with a heads up to hold a spot for me and they always do.

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        • These replies are indicative of a disturbing trend towards isolation and anxiousness in the younger crowd.

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          • I relate to this entirely. Once in a while, I'm hyped to do a raid and I'll plan ahead with my clan, but most of the time, I know I can't be on more than an hour, so I don't bother wasting their time or mine figuring out what to do. I just get on and do whatever is next for my character. Sometimes my clan mates turn up and fight along side me for a while and then wave good-bye, and that's fine. But most of the time I'm just enjoying an hour of downtime I've unexpectedly found that evening.

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            • Looking for clan members were called the Golden Bucks we have 30 clan mates now. add me on [b]PSN :Tony643tony[/b] I will help u with anything for helping the clan level up if u join [b]age 17 and up can join only[/b]

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              • Ur a 1.1 ur not good git some skill...

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                • You use the words stressed out so much I wonder how you deal with anything, ever. People talking about day to day stuff stresses you out. Waiting 5 minutes stresses you out. Sending a message TO A FRIEND stresses you out. -blam!-s sake man. What happens to you in traffic? Spontaneous combustion? Relax brother.

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                  • Just like to point out that if you've spent 3000 hours playing destiny, that's a tenth of the last 3 years. Not judging, I spend most of my free time gaming, just thought it's an interesting way to phrase it.

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                  • This is dead on me. I was in a clan once. That pretty much ruined me. The "holier than thou" that i experienced pushed me more and more to solo. I play to enjoy the game. Yes raids can be both fun and frustrating. But the attitudes get to me badly.

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                    • I feel like I wrote this. I agree 1000%

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                    • Amen to all this.

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                    • I used to be like this back in the days when I played WoW ESPECIALLY the part about being anxious about the social interaction. The idea of getting blamed for a team wiping was insane, even when I knew I was going to be perfectly fine and that it wasn't always my fault as the healer if our team does wipe. I'm more interested in talking with people nowadays, but I totally get the appeal of playing solo. If I could get through the entirety of Destiny without having to join up, I totally would. Yet, here we are. Now, time to go find a Nightfall fireteam...

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                      • I prefer to play all games solo for all your same reasons and more (clan drama, annoying people, haters, sheep, dont feel like mic-ing up 24/7 etc) I had over 300 xbox live friends at one point and now im done with that nonsense. Im almost 40, and i only play with 2 real life friends. One doesnt play destiny. The other just started last week. Im so much happier. Im hoping guided games will help me do raids as im the solo guardian that bungie made that for. I am grateful for that.

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                      • I don't mind being in groups when we are entering an activity (Nightfall or Raid). People are normally somewhat ready to go and if not it will only be a few minutes for everyone to finish swapping out weapons or whatever it is they are doing. For everything else it is better to run solo. It has always been my experience you will spend more time at the Tower or floating in orbit waiting for your fireteam than playing the game.

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                      • You speak facts guardian

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                      • Introversion at its finest.

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                      • You could've saved a lot of time by just saying, "I don't like when anything inconveniences me and i'm a bit socially awkward."

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                        • Totally true... I usually have friends on but I usually leave them to do their own things unless I get invited. I like playing solo because I can do milestones and activities more efficiently. The things I like to do with friends are Raids, Nightfalls, and Crucible. Exotic weapon quests and other things I like to do on my own so I don't have to explain anything.

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                        • I have some people that we play together but we don't party. That way I can still listen to podcasts and whatnot. We use Clan discord chat if we need to go to tower or want to do something specifically.

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                        • I think just the ability to have a group of 4 people play together is dumb. Whatever happened to the Bungie who made Halo or even had common sense? You don't straight up allow a group of 4 popes to play on the same team if the ONLY game modes are 4v4.

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                        • Thissssss 90% of the time I play solo for the same reasons.

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