For me personally I like the new loadout system with two primary guns and a heavy(?) gun for pvp. You have to rely more on skill plus teamwork other than OHK weapons. I do believe that power/secondary weapons should be buffed a bit (for both pvp and pve) since they feel a bit weaker than your primary. And ammo economy needs a bit of a buff in pve while in pvp the purple ammo can be a little shorter (30 to 60 seconds would be perfect). But overall I am somewhat satisfied with the game. Just make the guardian feel a bit powerful with his/her secondary and heavy weapons and movement possibly [spoiler] probably going to pre-order the game [/spoiler]

You competitive guys are way too easy to please, that's for sure. All Bungie has to do is turn it into Halo, and you are happy. Not me. I expected at least some innovation. Something different. Instead, I get D 1.5 with the same looking maps, same movement, weaker guns, less abilities, etc.

For me, balanced PvP focused on team play and map control as well as more loadout diversity. As much as everyone hates the change to the special heavy slots. I preferred it to seeing every one snipe dps the shit out of the boss. I cannot convey enough how much I love the idea of the weapon change. That said, the strike didn't feel great with the weapon change. This has been talked about by Bungie, so I'm optimistic the strike balancing will reflect the weapon system changes.

That's it? That's what I've been waiting for with Destiny 2???? They could have done all that in Destiny 1. How is this exciting? There's nothing there that couldn't have been done in D1. I expected so much more with a new game. Here they are giving us less than we had before and and the competitive players doing fist pumps. It's hilarious.

True. You could do huge mechanic changes in Destiny 1. Destiny 1 is a piece of software... you could technically do anything to it. The story mission hints at a campaign far better than anything Destiny has offered including the Taken King... but we will have to wait and see if that momentum carries. The beta was limited and I don't know what things like Lost Sectors and actual missions on patrol will add to the experience, but I think the exploration elements will be better than Destiny 1. I have never been of the mind that sequels should reinvent. I am a firm believer in iteration. The beta has doubled my excitement for the game even with the hint of trepidation about pve balance. I don't know how to explain it to you. If you didn't feel it, you didn't feel it. I think Destiny having the best "shooter feel" is still alive and well and I personally think it feels better in D2 (though many clearly don't agree). The art is still on point, the gunplay is still on point, the pvp is better, the story missions are better, things not present in the beta like guided games will do a lot for the community IMO. I can't wait to do a raid where there is a strategy other than everyone having a shit ton of sniper ammo and standing in one spot shooting a barely moving boss in an oversized crit location... just sayin.

It get it. I'm just trying to understand how people can be excited about this Beta. I was totally disappointed. I totally can't concur with you on PvP. It looks like they put ZERO effort at all into it. How hard is it to make weapons weaker and slow down charge rates? lol. I'm supposed to be impressed with two weak primaries instead of one? O-kay. The maps looked the same as well. There's no right or wrong with opinions. If you like it, it's cool. I wish I could. Destiny 1 meant a lot to me.

it isn't just about weaker weapons and nerfed cooldowns. It is that it all comes together to form a great experience IMO. I have always had a soft spot for a great feeling competitive environment that emphasizes map control over reflex (even though I'm not even outstanding at them or anything). I also feel that Destiny 1 was always held back by unbalanced weapon loadouts. I truly felt there was usually a "right" answer and playstyle wasn't really a thing at high level content. Destiny 1 was special. It will be tough to top the impact it had on me as well. But I'm also not expecting it to. I'm expecting it to iterate. In doing so, it will make some decisions I love and some I'm not on board with. I will play Destiny until I don't enjoy it. (though if you truly did not like it, I think you should vote with your wallet)

[quote] It is that it all comes together to form a great experience IMO.[/quote] Well, that "experience" has already been done.......and better. Halo. [quote] I also feel that Destiny 1 was always held back by unbalanced weapon loadouts[/quote] Balancing a game like this only hurts it. Abilities and supers are what made it great and different. Jeez, I can get gunplay focused PvP games anywhere, and from companies that do it better. Besides, it WAS a loot based game. Why would I want to grind for gear when it's weak and like everything else? Doesn't make sense to me. Now, if they had some separation from PvP and PvE, then you could do it and satisfy most people. They still could though........but will they.

The entire aspect to guns and abilities has changed. The game is grounded and more tactical. Less super based. And now with shields , dodges and healing / empowerment. I believe a lot has changed. In my opinion , for the better. You are entitled to your opinions as well. But I am excited for this game.