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What the heck are you talking about? Did you actually play it? The mechanics are virtually identical. So primary weapons with burn now occupy the secondary slot instead of the primary. That's a nerf, not a new mechanic. So existing secondary weapons now occupy the heavy slot. Again, a nerf. So Strength, Discipline and Intellect are not built into all gear and instead replace certain armor mods with reduced effect. Again, a nerf. Crucible, Story Missions, Strikes and Raids? All existing game types. The enemies? The same. The voice actors, characters, classes, gear slots? All the same. Please name for me one thing that's actually new- and keep in mind a new Crucible "mode" was released with TTK, that's an expansion level change, not a fundamental change to the game or its mechanics. I suppose there is ledge grabbing. Woo hoo. As to "different abilities", 90% of them are existing abilities, either directly ported, or reskinned and shuffled around. Warlock has hammer instead of Titan, and gets the Defender's Bubble Add on Effects (heal or increased damage) as a standalone "new ability". Hunter gets Shadestep, an existing ability, on all kits but with a giant cooldown. Sure there are some actual new abilities for Titans, a shield instead of a bubble for example, but if they choose 1 of 2 total options that ability gets outright replaced- by the old bubble! They also get to build a small wall or big wall, the only "new" ability that is actually new. Were you fooled by the reskins into thinking the Arcstrider is somehow different from the Bladedancer in a way more meaningful than the removal of invisibility effects? That's the most significant way in which the abilities are different- in their absence. Not just in terms of reduced subclasses, but the defender for example now kits into his base kit from before, and lacks the orb generating prowess he once had. The Warlock solar based kit, on a class with the keyword "recovery", is most notably different from a combination of their previous kit and the titan hammers in that it lacks the ability to self res, which is what really made them unique and gave them a meaningful PVE role. You're interpreting a game with nerfs to every aspect of itself, with vastly reduced character choices, and very, VERY few meaningful new ones, and with a game which is no more 'different' from the previous title than its expansion was from its pre-expansion self, and interpreting that as a "new game" with "new mechanics" and "different abilities"? I would LOVE for you to elaborate on exactly what and how is so new and different about it.
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  • Voidwalker is much better now. And dawnblade has much two awesome pathways unlike sunsinger, one builds on the super completely and the other has the best neutral game around

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  • I ain't reading that crap thats way too long lol

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  • Same here.

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  • Edited by Panthorius: 7/23/2017 1:48:30 AM
    Are you forgetting that as a Titan, you can use the shield to bounce off enemies ( or PVP ) in a tracking formation, Then go charging like a tank into enemies voiding them out of existence... or not use the shield but instead leap in the air ( hold down R1+L1 ) and you get to use the Ward of Dawn Titan bubble? Or with Warlock - Void. You can Overcharge your grenade by taking some juice out of super ( doesn't have to be fully charged ) and deal much more damage? There are some new mechanics like these and obviously when they show us how to mods we Can flip things around. There are 14 mod slots in armor and weapons. So it's possible the cooldowns for the abilities will be ready at launch. Till then. You can always jump in the air as a dawnblade warlock, make some kills and lessen the cooldown for your melee and grenades. Haven't played much as arcstrider/hunter but I'm sure there are new abilities. They even grey'd out some in the guardian trees if you noticed.

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  • The arcstrider does have completely different mechanics than blade dancer, and also, the super has combos that do different effects, like an aoe ground slam, and (my favorite) a ranged blast of arc energy from the palm of your hand.

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  • H s right though bungie gettin rich off of screwing us funny how the streamers they support are the same old

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  • Shut Up!!!!!!! Since when are humans not allowed an opinion. Go complain somewhere else loser.

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  • LMAO I hope you realize the irony of your statements. In case you don't: You're complaining "since when are humans not allowed an opinion" simultaneously while telling me to shove mine and "complain somewhere else". I suppose "humans" are allowed an opinion but I am not? Also how telling is it that personal attacks are the best you can do, and talk of "opinions", and you have zero to refute anything I said?

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  • You are most definitely entitled to your own opinion, however, most of your opinions are not facts. I would have you look at Acalson's post about the many changes that have been put into this sequel. Sequel being the key word. Find a sequel that has completely overhauled everything about the game, that looks nothing like, or plays nothing like it's predecessor. I think you'd be hard pressed to find one. Does any of the uncharted franchise look or play entirely different than the original. It surely does not, and that's just one example. Also, we have seen what, maybe 1% of destiny 2, and that's probably a stretch. As I said before, you are absolutely entitled to your own opinion, and if you don't like what you've seen so far, then don't pre-order, or don't ever buy it for that matter. That is your right, but to say that there is not nearly enough new content, or only reskins isn't fair to the game, if only because of how little we've actually seen.

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  • fair point made there, we dont know and are only guessing untill sep 6th, thats when we will know for certain, so its either going to be happy smiles, or death threats all round, lets just try to chill, cos we are all guessing here, nothing more, nothing less.

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  • I do apologize for calling you loser, that was inappropriate of me. However, I feel that the aggressive knock down of his opinions, as opposed to a conventional disagreement with his ideas. The truth is there is so much negativity around here that it's getting to me. That's my fault for it to bother me, maybe I need to take a break from here. I also did realize the irony as soon as I posted it.

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  • I hear you. So much negativity here, it's hard not to lash out. And you was "man enough" to apologize for it. No one does that around here.

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