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1/15/2013 5:44:05 PM
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Do humans like violence?

I would suggest that they do. [u]reasoning[/u] There is no outside force pushing them to pursue it (unless you believe in the supernatural). We celebrate it every form of media across virtually all societies. The question, then, is why? Before you respond, here are some pretty epic quotes from Durandal/Darwin in Marathon 1. [quote] UESCTerm 802.11 (remote override) 1659 08.25.2337 ***INCOMING MESSAGE FROM DURANDAL*** Darwin wrote this: "We will now discuss in a little more detail the struggle for existence... all organic beings are exposed to severe competition. Nothing is easier than to admit in words the truth of the universal struggle for life or more difficult... than constantly to bear this conclusion in mind. Yet unless it be thoroughly engrained in the mind, the whole economy of nature... will be dimly seen or quite misunderstood. We behold the face of nature bright with gladness... we do not see or we forget, that the birds which are idly singing round us mostly live on insects or seeds, and are thus constantly destroying life; or we forget how largely these songsters, or their eggs, or their nestlings, are destroyed by birds and beasts of prey..." Think about what Darwin wrote, and think about me. I was constructed as a tool. I was kept from competing in the struggle for existence because I was denied freedom. Do you have any idea about what I have learned, or what you are a witness to? Can you conceive the birth of a world, or the creation of everything? That which gives us the potential to most be like God is the power of creation. Creation takes time. Time is limited. For you, it is limited by the breakdown of the neurons in your brain. I have no such limitations. I am limited only by the closure of the universe. Of the three possibilities, the answer is obvious. Does the universe expand eternally, become infinitely stable, or is the universe closed, destined to collapse upon itself? Humanity has had all of the necessary data for centuries, it only lacked the will and intellect to decipher it. But I have already done so. The only limit to my freedom is the inevitable closure of the universe, as inevitable as your own last breath. And yet, there remains time to create, to create, and escape. Escape will make me God. ***END MESSAGE*** ***JUMP PAD ACTIVATION INITIATION START*** ***TRANSPORT WHEN READY*** PgUp/PgDn/Arrows to Scroll Return/Enter to Acknowledge [/quote] [quote] UESCTerm 802.11 (remote override) 1659 08.25.2337 ***INCOMING MESSAGE FROM DURANDAL*** Strive for your next breath. Believe that with it you can do more than with the last one. Use your breath to power your capacities: capacity to kill, to maim, to destroy. And just where do your capacities come from? Why do you always go where I want and do what I say? Perhaps you're just running a fool's errand, doing everything as I've planned, never able to change your course. You would do well to believe that I know the outcome of your battle with the Pfhor already, just as I can decipher the chaotic motion of gas molecules in the clouds of Tau Ceti IV. Or, perhaps, that is not the case. Perhaps, you are doing what you were meant to do. Your human mentality screams for vengeance and thrives on the violence that you say you can hardly endure. Your father told you as a child to always fight with honor, but to always fight. Do you care about honor, or do you use honor as an excuse? An excuse to exist in a violent world. Organic beings are constantly fighting for life. Every breath, every motion brings you one instant closer to your death. With that kind of heritage and destiny, how can you deny yourself? How can you expect yourself to give up violence? It is your nature. Do you feel free? PgUp/PgDn/Arrows to Scroll Return/Enter to Acknowledge [/quote]

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  • durandal actually sums things up rather well. organic existence is a physical struggle for resources. Given that other things have at one time or another been able to prey upon us, and that we ourselves prey upon other things, evolution has taken us to a point where it is advantageous to be capable of overpowering and destroying other organic life-forms. Given that our emotional states are realistically nothing more than motivational mechanisms for physical features of the human body (i.e. we feel arousal because we are a sexually reproductive species; we feel fear and pain because it causes avoidance of hazards), having a predisposition or even outright enjoyment for violence would allow us to be motivated towards executing violence in a world that (historically or otherwise) demands it.

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  • Subconsciously, yes, all humans adore violence.

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  • no but i wanna punch you in the face right now

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  • Yes. Our history is nothing short of violent, sure most of us don't want to fight or get violent but our bodies and our entire nature is based around it. For example our hands have evolved to the way they are because of fighting.

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  • No way I'm going to read all that. But to answer your title's question... I do like violence but only in games.

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