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6/12/2017 12:17:12 AM
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Destiny 2 - Arc Strider vs. Bladedancer (The Art Direction), Someone go get Cozmo!

Yay, Destiny 2! Roaming supers for everyone! Titans get a sweet new shield like Captain America to kick ass with, throwing it, blocking incoming fire, and being the Wall of Light that we know them to be! Strikers can stomp through enemy lines like the Hulk, literally trampling underfoot anyone making the mistake of getting in their way! Warlocks get a new version of Nova Bomb! Woo! With the death of stars at their fingertips, they can throw loads of Void energy across the battlefield. Dawnblade lets Warlocks soar above raining death from a sword of flaming justice! And Hunters get a new upgrade to Golden Gun, letting them fire off like a champion of Wild West films! Gunslingers have never been more aptly named, spitting death from the end of a gun on a lawless frontier. Arc Strider! The new upgrade to Bladedancer gives you a... staff? Wait, what? A staff. It's slightly pointy at the ends. And you spin with it. Hold on... Where did that come from? Bladedancer has always been about dealing death to your enemies with a twirl of your blade. "Dancer" is literally in the name. Okay, okay, let's look at this again. Defender to Sentinel: Become the Wall. Where a Void Titan stands, their enemies will not pass them. This makes sense: give them a shield with which to defend themselves and others. Sunsinger to Dawnblade: A Sunsinger basks in the warmth of Light, letting it flow through them to shine through their enemies. Now complete the Valkyrie look by giving them a flaming sword of cleansing Light to burn away the Darkness with. Bladedancer to Arc Strider: Beauty in annihilation. A Bladedancer whirls through the battlefield in a deadly waltz, zipping this way and that in a trance. Naturally, the only upgrade for a [i]knife-wielding[/i] maniac is a... [i]staff?[/i] What? Why not more knife? Not enough sharp things. Now don't get me wrong. I understand that Bungie wants to make a true sequel, but still, it seems a far greater stretch than any other Subclass. Why not a shortsword? Better yet, [i]two[/i] shortswords. Think about it: Bungie could still have all the twirls and swings and slams they want, keep the "balancing act" art style inherent in the Strider name and staff motif, keep the name, and the Subclass perks, and most importantly, [i]make the Subclasses more congruent.[/i] If anyone's interested in this, please let me know and try to grab Bungie's attention as well. Everything can change before the Beta and final release. I can also have concept art up for the "dual shortsword" version of the Arc Strider up on Bungie.net if you're intrigued. Again, let me know.

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  • Wait, Titans have the ability to still make a bubble. Come on! They didn't have to loose anything! Plus striker got buffed. I'm sensing some favoritism here

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  • One of the powers us hunters lost was the ability to blink. I used to kick butt in the crucible with blink until arcstrider came along. Now I get a stick and no knife melee. If you think about it, hunters got more of a downgrade. I would trade arcstrider for bladedancer in a heartbeat.

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    • Yeah. . . I was kinda bummed they took out the knife too.

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    • Dude it's basically a soft reboot of D1, they nerfed out blink and going invisible, add some things from StormCaller and here's your new subclass with less perks to mix and match! Same thing with Warlock, add somethings from Sunbreaker and here you go! Now as someone who's in the forums, I've never seen anyone say they wanted a roaming Striker Titan, I've seen a bunch of Hunter mains cry nerf to Titan skate, so here's your nerf in D2! I'm just hoping for the best at this point!

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      • Not going to happen. The Bladedancer and the Arcstrider are completely different power-fantasies, and Bungie is intentionally living Bladedancer behind. Bladedancer was basically the Rogue/Assassin fantasy. Striking from the shadows and carving up his victims with speed and stealth. Problem is that those very assassin like traits, made them frustrating to fight in PvP...and weren't particularly helpful in PVE. (Invisibility. Teleports. Backstabbing) Every crucible player has their stories about Invisible Bladedancers crouching in corners with shotguns and snipers. The Arcstrider is the Warrior-monk/martial-arts master/ Darth Maul fantasy. A fighting style that is based on speed and precision. But one that fights openly and honorably....rather than from the shadows. While there are definitely dual sword fighting styles in kung fu, you're really not going to see a huge difference (visually) between a character fighting with dual swords....and one fighting with a bo staff.

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        • The lance/staff/javelin weapon thing is arguably the best melee weapon. Lance>blade

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          • *Trade-dancer

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          • You know what would be even better? If they'd actually made a new subclass like they did for the others and hadn't just removed the only good parts of BD and reskinned it for Poledancer.

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          • I want my invisibility back 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🤔

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            • BOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE BUNGIE AND THEIR DESIGNS! If the Destiny Truth Cast and their followers have taught me anything it's that YOU ALL HAVE NO RIGHT TO EVER HAVE A NEGATIVE OPINION OF ANYTHING REGARDING DESTINY.

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            • That's stick is a martial arts weapon by the way and a good one.

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              • I'm just going to end this conversation now. Arcstrider is an assassin speed Kilik from Soul Calibur. Mean with a staff and is quick to punish anyone who does not take giant waves of room away from him. You are not using a dagger to speed through the air. You are the air. Quick to hit the upper torso or the lower with that lightning staff BECAUSE you are energized to move that fast and deal a massive amount of dps against the enemies unfortunate enough to be lined up against you. To put it bluntly: You are the master staff in the wild. Which means absolutely nothing is safe from you.

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                • Bump.

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