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5/11/2017 10:26:34 AM
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the jewish law, the Torah, is finally correctly interpreted & embodied by Christ..the jewish law is at the heart of the Covenant between God and jews, its part sacrifice/contract between God & jews and part rules/laws, the Jews' understanding of the covenant. it was blown out of proportion by scholars in the 1st century with too many laws..these laws demonstrated religious authorities' inaccurate interpretations of God - the NT pits Christ directly against the former interpretations of God, which is enlightening yet scandalous..interpretations of god influence teachings like morals and protocol like how to act during holy seasons etc. the Torah originated around the actual covenant..the ancient world was largely ritualistic in their religions, the jews were no different..sacrifices and holy days like Passover were believed to have a redeeming effect, the animal sacrifices restored jews to god after man sinned (separated) from god, this was performed annually..the NT pits Christ directly against animal sacrifices and the ancient priesthood, for Christs blood itself is redeeming with eternal effects, thus rendering the old priesthood useless - it was a slap in the face or insult to their pride. the old law & covenant is legitimate, even Christ acknowledged its fundamentals..but its purpose has been completed - to pardon sins via a covenant with the jews which..now, thru christ, and the gospel/church/holy spirit in future ages, the world world/every person has to the ability to live in a covenant with god.
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The laws are invalid, but the teachings are valid.
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Are the two not codependent in this situation? Also - how can you fulfill a law?
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No, they are not codependent. Also, the laws were only written so that people could obtain salvation through following them. But Jesus payed the debt for everyone, therefore nullifying the laws.
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By that logic - surely all laws, either religious, legal or otherwise - are meaningless.
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No, for the laws of the Old Testament were solely for being redeemed. When Christ payed for everyone's redemption, those laws were no longer needed. Modern laws have nothing to do with getting into heaven.
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[quote]No, for the laws of the Old Testament were solely for being redeemed.[/quote] I'm not sure I understand this, can you explain it? [quote]Modern laws have nothing to do with getting into heaven.[/quote] Though either you or other religious users here have said that modern laws originate from religious laws.
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By making it no longer relevant or needed.
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That implies it is no longer needed to punish homosexuality - which implies it was ever needed.
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There is no need to punish homosexuality or give it special treatment over other sins in the modern era. In the times of the Old Testament things were much different. There was less population, different cultures and different world powers. The fact is that things must adapt as time goes on and things change. The same goes for the bible. The New Testament was the foundation for Christianity and preached words of peace instead of violence.
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So how does that "fulfill" a law?
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Edited by Inflatablepants: 5/11/2017 1:33:10 PMLaws that become irrelevant over time are laws that are fulfilled. They have served their purpose and are no longer needed
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Again - killing homosexuals was never relevant.
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In our modern day we would say that. Back then, however, I doubt you would be saying the same thing
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Yes but why is that teaching now invalid, when back then it wasn't? You can't just say God's teachings change over time - they're God's teachings.
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Well, I can actually haha. Jesus came down and said that the violent acts were no longer needed. Jesus being God in the flesh, he changed the rules.
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I have very strong feelings about the "Jesus is Hod" arguments...
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I wouldn't be familiar with them. Sorry.
