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Edited by Zavala's Pet Cat: 3/31/2017 5:45:23 PMOld testament is shitty for arguements against christianity, because thats not who we are. Thats more of the Jews, Old Testament is the Torah. The New Testament is who Jesus is, which is who we follow. Jesus said "we dont have to do Old testament things bc im here now". So his statement is fine with me, and quite frankly, i agree with it. Gutting my kids for God? Fuuuсk that.
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It's the same god...
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Edited by Zavala's Pet Cat: 3/31/2017 6:38:22 PMSo? Just because you're God doesn't mean you can't change your ways.
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Oh you're right, it wasn't until jesus, meek and mild, that we get the idea of eternal torture for actions on Earth. Very tolerant.
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Because the actions of the Christians in the early 1000's speak for Christians today.
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That has nothing to do with what I said. Besides, the actions of those who were closer to Jesus and the origin of Christianity do speak for the religion. The most actually. Just because modern christians pick and choose what to believe doesn't make the rest go away.
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It was a demonstration of faith. The dude never actually stabbed anyone.
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The post didn't say he did... it's the fact he was willing to. Sailed over your head eh?
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The ends justify the means. Also, if God truly exists (let's assume he does for this example), then what he would be doing would be righteous.
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I get how you would think that, was raised religious and went to catholic middle and high school. But I wholeheartedly disagree. Even if I new 100% that god was real, that does not mean I must worship and follow its every whim. I am a free, independent minded being. I am slave to no one, man or deity. If it ever told me to kill, as Yahweh seems to do, I would give it the finger and say fuсk no. Just because you created me does not mean I am your mindless slave. That is why I hate the ideas monotheism spews.
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Well if God is real, then your only purpose is to serve him. Denying God is denying your purpose.
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[quote]Well if God is real, then your only purpose is to serve him. Denying God is denying your purpose.[/quote] I feel sorry for you that you believe it. But I don't blame you, religion has been used to control the masses since the dawn of human thought. Try to think of it from this angle. Your parents created you. Does that mean you must worship and follow their every command? No. Besides, if the Christian god, one of millions of human made gods, was real, how petty is it? It creates you to worship it, and if you don't you suffer the worse imaginable pain for eternity. That is the definition of narcism, totalitarianism, and sadomasochism. It is a evil teaching that uses fear to control the weak minded, and clearly created by humans to control the masses. The worst thing is it twists it to say that it loves you and cares for you. I wish you enlightened thought brother. Go in peace.
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You don't get it do you? The only reason the entire universe was created in the first place (according to the Bible) was for glory to come to God. That means that our only purpose is to glorify him. Now, what do you do with a creation that doesn't do what you want? You throw it away. What do you do with a creation that does its purpose? You keep it. It is as simple as that.
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Edited by A Spooky Reaper: 3/31/2017 4:19:29 AMI understood your point the first time. You are equating humans to something like a DVD player. If it brakes you throw it out. If it works you keep it. Humans are free to make their own choices. We are not owned by some deity, even if that deity does exist. We are not some "thing" to be thrown away if we disagree. You are a slave who loves his capture, mass Stockholm's Syndrome. I pity you.