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3/30/2017 10:01:49 AM
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Nothing says tolerant like trying to pass laws enforcing your religious beliefs.
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Edited by mccwrc09: 3/31/2017 8:22:17 PMI'll let the onion answer that [quote] Like all other major religions, Islam offers a hopeful message promptly corrupted by a reliable handful of idiots [/quote] Can be applied to every religion
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Well Sharia already does that
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Sure does. And we don't need it, or some crazy Christian version here in America.
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[quote]Nothing says tolerant like trying to pass laws enforcing your religious beliefs.[/quote] Everyone does that. Can't be avoided.
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It can. It's called seperate of church and state.
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[quote]It can. It's called seperate of church and state.[/quote] That's impossible. Everyone has their own set of metaphysics that impact their worldview. You walk according to whether or not you believe there isn't a God or there is a God, or some other god. You impact the world according to your faith. In essence, you walk and live according to your faith.
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Metaphysics? Give me a -blam!-ing break. Yes, you impact the world based on your values and how you perceive it, sure. But when it comes to governing, we shouldn't be creating policy based around what a religion says. We as humans have the ability to look at ourselves and how we perceive things, self reflection. and that means we have the capacity to try to be impartial.
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[quote]Metaphysics? Give me a -blam!-ing break. [/quote] Op! Lol why are you so easily triggered? What an emotional response XD [quote]Yes, you impact the world based on your values and how you perceive it, sure. But when it comes to governing, we shouldn't be creating policy based around what a religion says.[/quote] Shouldn't? Yes. But that's not reality, as it's impossible, as I've described. [quote]We as humans have the ability to look at ourselves and how we perceive things, self reflection. and that means we have the capacity to try to be impartial.[/quote] [quote][b][i][u]try[/u][/i][/b] to be impartial.[/quote] And you've made my point. It's impossible to be completely impartial, try as anyone may.
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There's a huge difference between being slightly influenced and passing legislation based on a religious beliefs or teaching. You've described that you lack reading comprehension.
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[quote]There's a huge difference between being slightly influenced and passing legislation based on a religious beliefs or teaching. [/quote] It's called compromising one's beliefs with another's. [quote]You've described that you lack reading comprehension.[/quote] And you've demonstrated that you are most likely arguing out of a triggered emotional response instead of rational thought. You have anger issues lol get over yourself.
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No, it's called being objective, or impartial.
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[quote]No, it's called being objective, or impartial.[/quote] Humans can't be purely objective nor impartial. There's always subjectivity and partiality. You continue to prove my point, for example lol
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I've never said they can be. But once again you refuse to acknowledge the fact that we can make a conscious effort to separate ourselves from our biases. Making a decision based on religious belief, and making one from a stance of impartiality, are not at all the same.
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[quote]I've never said they can be. But once again you refuse to acknowledge the fact that we can make a conscious effort to separate ourselves from our biases. [/quote] You can make as great of an effort all you want, but the fact is, you can't lol [quote]Making a decision based on religious belief, and making one from a stance of impartiality, are not at all the same.[/quote] You're right, they're different, but man is only capable of the former.
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Edited by Britton: 3/31/2017 4:28:43 PMOk prove it. Since it's "impossible"
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[quote]Ok prove it. Since it's "impossible"[/quote] Like I said. You act according to your faith. It's subject to your values and your values are subject to either "programming" in how you were raised or what you experience or subject to the foundation of your beliefs (metaphysics).
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Ok so since you can use "because I said so," you're wrong, because I said so.
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[quote]Ok so since you can use "because I said so," you're wrong, because I said so.[/quote] Nope. I could say I'm right and that would conflict with what you say. You prove my point.
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Glad to see you're just ignoring everything.
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[quote]Glad to see you're just ignoring everything.[/quote] On the contrary. And ironically, it is you who have ignored everything I said be resorting to saying that lol
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Edited by Britton: 3/31/2017 5:23:13 PMK. I guess in every situation, we can look at what a person's biases are and always know the decisions they will make. Because any other outcome is, as you claim, impossible.
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[quote]K. I guess in every situation, we can look at what a person's biases are and always know the decisions they will make. Because any other outcome is, as you claim, impossible.[/quote] Yup. The only exception is in regards to pride or curiosity. But when it comes down to the important stuff, people will stick to their faith, as you do, for example.
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Edited by Britton: 3/31/2017 6:46:13 PMWow. You should do a study and publish it, because nobody else thinks this way, so you must have some ground breaking information to be able to determine a person's decisions before they happen. So astounding. And what, exactly, is my faith?
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[quote]Wow. You should do a study and publish it, because nobody else thinks this way, so you must have some ground breaking information to be able to determine a person's decisions before they happen. So astounding. And what, exactly, is my faith?[/quote] No, I don't determine it. It's determined by one's faith. You are atheist, at your core. You don't live your life in subject to a higher authority/intelligence.
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Such as?
