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originally posted in:Septagon Media Club
2/24/2017 9:04:04 PM
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First comes the day Then comes the night. After the darkness Shines through the light. The difference, they say, Is only made right By the resolving of gray Through refined Jedi sight. - Journal of the Whills There's a video that explains this better but here it goes: Luke will be the Last Jedi. There has been an underlying theme since maybe KOTOR II, maybe even episode 1 with Qui Gon about the superiority and closerness to the Force through being "Gray". For a time, many claimed the Light to be good and truest to the Force while the Dark was considered evil and false. Within the Star Wars universe, they're depicted as dualities. Two sides of the same coin. If one tries to remain too pure to a side, they miss the whole point. I don't have time to further elaborate, but basically, Luke will realize the failings of the previous Jedi order which he may have tried to replicate. That's why he ran off. "Where did I go wrong?" Rey and maybe Kylo Ren/Ben Skywalker will, by the end of episode 9, find a balance to be a true Jedi of the Force in its entirety, not just light or dark, but Gray in the middle. So, episode 8 will be about wrestling and exploring with what did and didn't work with the previous Jedi order. So Luke is literally the last "Jedi"
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  • I agree that the Force needs to be pure in the sense of a balance, but the title is plural. That has since been revealed. I'll add that to the main post. Also, Ben is technically an Organa or Solo, not a Skywalker.

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  • [quote]I agree that the Force needs to be pure in the sense of a balance, but the title is plural. That has since been revealed. I'll add that to the main post. Also, Ben is technically an Organa or Solo, not a Skywalker.[/quote] Not necessarily. Unless you can show me direct evidence, just because a few translations are plural, doesn't mean it to be actually plural. Could be a [i]mistranslation[/i]. You can argue names all you want. Ben has skywalker blood. He's a skywalker.

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  • That would be a lot of mistranslations and that's unlikely. Link above. And I get where you're coming from, but that still doesn't make him a Skywalker in name. Leia was adopted into the Organas and Han is a Solo. Ben has to be one of them. He's only half Skywalker, but I do suspect he might continue the legacy.

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  • [quote]That would be a lot of mistranslations and that's unlikely. Link above. And I get where you're coming from, but that still doesn't make him a Skywalker in name. Leia was adopted into the Organas and Han is a Solo. Ben has to be one of them. He's only half Skywalker, but I do suspect he might continue the legacy.[/quote] That article only speculates. It's not confirmed by anyone involved. Biology. Should Rey be revealed to be Luke's kid or something, she'd be just as much "Skywalker" as Ben.

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  • Still, Disney wouldn't make that many mistakes. That would be awful on their part and they have really high standards for the most part. Again, I'm not denying that Ben is biologically related to the Skywalkers, he's just not a Skywalker in name. A quarter biological, to be exact, as someone pointed out in this thread.

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  • Wouldn't Luke be half Skywalker, too?

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  • [quote]Wouldn't Luke be half Skywalker, too?[/quote] True. Did my math wrong.

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  • Oh, damn. You're right. That would make Ben a quarter. My bad. Nice catch. I forgot that Luke wasn't conceived like Anakin was.

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