Meh, I guess. I was a Christmas noob (2014). VOG and Crota were a thing. I became a part of a great clan that was small enough that you knew everyone, but big enough and active enough that everyone was on frequently - especially every Tuesday reset and Friday Xur day. Back then, drops for Ghorn, Hawkmoon, Vex Mytho, etc., were amazing experiences and raid weapons like Fatebringer, Black Hammer, etc., were similarly great. Weapons in King's Fall were nothing compared to VOG and Crota, and it took some of the fun out of the raid. Why raid if the loot was crap? Then PVP became a bigger thing when trials came out with House of Wolves and "balancing" began ruining some of the fun in PVE. Clan members started dropping off by HoW, and by TTK, they were almost all gone. There were two guys that I still played with, but we had to supplement every King's Fall raid with another three. Therein lies part of the problem - King's Fall required 6 people to be on their game. If one person died, it was a wipe. If one person missed an assignment or didn't do enough DPS on a sister, for example, it was a wipe. LFG just wasn't cutting it. We associated with another good group of players, but it was just never the same. Additionally, I have [u]always[/u] disliked the Taken, and I was bored with the hive. Honestly, it took me 84 Crota hard modes to get the Crux to drop just to get the masterpiece (facepalm) that is Necrochasm. - I didn't want to see any more thrall. Now, I am just burned out with raiding I guess. I've only done the Iron thingy a couple of times. I would like to get into it more, but I haven't found a good group like the one I hung with before. And, quite frankly, I haven't committed to one, because I can't make the same time commitment to the game that I used to in 2014-2015. So at the end of the day...it's me, not the raid. From best to least: VOG, Iron thingy, TTK then Crota.