oh no, oh my, oh i am so busted now...let me go hide in a scurry... What exactly is your point, if anything, you are illuminating mine..and in my response to the previous poster, he is only boasting how many are actively engaged in the game. to your point, piggy backing off the stats I had to look up, why dont you do the math? I personally do not need help figuring anything but trying to understand what the heck your post just contributed to in response to my comment to someone else resorting to name-calling another person.. there are 7.8 million tracked players, yet 800K were in PVE, of which the probability/likelihood is that, of the 800K, 500K entered the crucible. But let's give the data the benefit of doubt and say, 800+500 entered...that is 1.3 million active of the "tracked" 7.8 million players (edit). how many are actively playing at this time? What is your contribution with the comment you made, again?